Iran is not an Arab Country. It's Persian!

Bright: I was driving to the bank the other day and I drove past Arby's and I thought to myself, it was pretty early in the morning. First off is Arby's open for breakfast? Like you wouldn't think so, but the employees were there and they were at the side door smoking. And I'm like, that's quintessential of every fast food restaurant. They're always out there smoking together. There's always somebody out back smoking.

Nilla: you I don't think so. Yeah.

Duds: Somebody out back.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah.

Bright: I'm like, it's a prerequisite, I think, that you must be a smoker if you work at fast food.

Nilla: That or also if you're like in the union or something or working like a job site, you know, those guys too.

Bright: Well, and duds, like you were saying, if you're any kind of hourly employee, you got to have to take up smoking. Yes. You get, get more breaks, right? Longer breaks, more paid time off, if you will. And

Duds: Yeah, it's your benefit.

Nilla: Let's work. Yeah, yeah.

Duds: Yeah, a lot of companies have to put into place, you know, smoking policies on how often people are able to go do that. Cause some people are constantly out there. Yeah.

Bright: or nowadays.

Nilla: I was gonna say there has to be something, right? But I mean...

Bright: Now, when, when we were younger though, like when we were like in high school, working those high school jobs or whatever, all of my friends would go smoke and I was not a smoker and they, they take at least one or two breaks every hour. Yeah. And they'd just be, you know, on a smoke break and who would be doing their work. Me who would be covering the shift while they're out smoking. Yes.

Nilla: Mm.

Duds: Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah.

Duds: A chump.

Nilla: Like whenever they say break, think if it's more than a certain amount of time, I guess you should make them clock out.

Bright: Right. But they don't. And then if you have, mean, there's a whole friends episode about this. If you had a manager that smoked, you'd go smoke together. So.

Duds: Yep, you're kind of a protected class at that point, you know?

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, yeah. It's weird, it's interesting. Mmm, yeah.

Bright: You got all the gossip. Yeah. You know, Rachel and the friends episode, she tries to take up smoking because she's not, she's not able to make any of the decisions. All the decisions are happening during the smoke breaks and she's getting left out of the loop. Yeah. Well, and that is also true. You know, if, if you're in the white collar biz, you've to know how to golf. If you're a lady in the white collar biz and you know how to golf, watch out.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: You

Duds: It's like on the golf course, you know, where those big deals are made.

Nilla: Mmm. Mmm.

Duds: Yep, you're set.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Especially if you can, if you can hold your own too, and drink.

Duds: I just golfed last weekend for the first time in a while.

Nilla: Yeah? ⁓ yeah. We're out.

Duds: ⁓ Ambrar, yep. It's over in Columbia, Illinois, I believe.

Nilla: Which one's that? Where's that at? Okay, gotcha.

Duds: Yeah, it's a pretty nice course.

Bright: That's not a Bobcat man's ⁓ family's golf course, it?

Duds: I don't think so. I don't know.

Nilla: What? The F1?

Bright: Yeah, didn't his, ⁓ his family owned a driving range and a golf course right over there in Columbia, Illinois.

Nilla: ⁓ actually the one on the right, right when you cross the bridge, I don't think that one's a golf course. think it's just a driving range.

Bright: Mm-hmm. I thought he had a golf course too though.

Nilla: Maybe a minute.

Duds: I think it has like a par or maybe a par three chorus over there. Yeah. But no, this, this is not that. Amber has pretty nice course, but I've never played it other than the winter months. So like early, early spring, it's not really green yet. So.

Bright: Yeah, par three. Maybe it's a par three course.

Nilla: ⁓ really? Yeah. Manager golf? Yeah, right.

Bright: Well Yeah. Yeah. And now what, what is this for you? You said you have something or what?

Nilla: Mm.

Duds: No, just, of course, we just went out and golfed. But I am going on a work trip here next week down to Mobile. Yeah, get in shape, get in shape. Had timed out perfect, so I hadn't swung golf clubs since last fall. ⁓

Bright: ⁓ Nice.

Nilla: So that's what it was for. was to get, you know, break it in. Yeah.

Bright: Get ready. Yeah. So where- Yeah, I know, it's tough. So where are you going? Mobile, did you say?

Duds: Yeah, for a customer, well, it's a supplier appreciation, or it's like a charity golf tournament. So Shipyard invites all their suppliers in, and they do some presentations, and then they golf on Friday, I think. Yeah. It's a good day.

Bright: conference or something.

Nilla: Mm.

Bright: Nice. Yeah. Yeah, always fun. Anytime you're getting paid to golf, it is a win. I, ⁓ I have a conference in, ⁓ in April down in Mexico and, ⁓ my coworker asked me, cause usually I'm, I'm tagged to go, to go golf. And she's like, you know, are you in? And most of the time I'm like, yeah, I'm in, but I wanted to double check. like, what day is it? And what time? Cause sometimes they start so freaking early, you know,

Nilla: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Duds: Mm-hmm. Check-ins like seven or six forty five. Yeah.

Bright: And how far away is the drive? You know, right, right, right. And it's tough because you're doing your out, your party in the night before all those, you got to party that night. All, you know, all the things. and if it's like a Saturday, I'm less interested, you know, cause yes, I work on a Saturday, but it's like, I'm not really getting paid on, you know, so if it's a weekday and I'm golfing, then it's, then it's a win-win. So it's a Thursday golf golf outing. I'm like, yep, I'll do it.

Nilla: Hmm. Cool day.

Duds: Right. Right, right.

Nilla: Mmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Yep. Yeah. I think I'm going Wednesday to Friday. it works out. Get home Friday afternoon.

Bright: I'll take one for the team. Yeah. Good, good, good. Yeah. We're headed. We're headed down to Florida in less than two weeks now, ⁓ Naples and then Marco Island. Yeah. For spring break. So look, looking forward to that. Looking, hoping for some warm weather, some sunshine. I don't know about any golf. That's the family outing. No golf probably, but I'll take it. I know. Well, I have that it's actually in the agenda. I've got the weather forecast.

Nilla: Go out.

Duds: Spring break.

Nilla: Okay.

Duds: That'll be fine.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: It's been pretty miserable out though.

Nilla: What?

Bright: I tell ya.

Duds: ⁓ now he's a weatherman, alright.

Nilla: That's what happens isn't there a joke actually that once you get to a certain age or something like that everybody becomes a weatherman?

Duds: Well, you don't have to be right.

Bright: So I was gonna, I'm gonna break the news here. I'm starting a new weather podcast. No, no, I kid, I kid. No more podcasts. You never know. You never know. Well, you need a...

Nilla: Yeah ⁓ We'll see.

Duds: But maybe. Jameson's really into tornadoes, so he would love it.

Nilla: That's true, those are cool, kinda. And we might get one tomorrow night. Well, maybe I shouldn't go into it too much, I don't know.

Duds: it.

Bright: No, I got, I got soccer. Kids have soccer tomorrow night. I better not have tornadoes. We'll see. Maybe, yeah, maybe no soccer Friday night. It's the best. You know, I love it. It's right after school, straight to soccer, stopped by Wally's come home bedtime. No, no, we do have practice Saturday mornings, but it's not like required. It's, it's optional. So I am taking her if the weather's nice. ⁓

Nilla: Maybe not.

Duds: Friday night soccer, huh?

Nilla: Okay. Mm.

Duds: Was that at the soccer park or what?

Bright: Yeah. Down to soccer park. But you know, we don't have any of this, you know, 7 a.m. games or, know, even her practice is at 10, 15, you know, right. Yeah. So Friday night games are good, but we do, we have a double header tomorrow. So it's two, two games, six and seven. So back, back to back, back to back. So that's all right. They had a bye last week. So. All right. Well, should we get into the, should we get into the heavy stuff?

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: ⁓ that's not bad. Yeah, some of the hours are terrible.

Nilla: Okay. Yeah. Mm.

Duds: Back to back though, which is nice.

Nilla: No, okay. Right, right. Mm-hmm.

Duds: Got anything in the news?

Nilla: I guess.

Bright: ⁓ it's heavy. It's heavy today. So, ⁓ I was telling

Duds: I'm completely off of the social media, so I don't have any idea what's going on.

Bright: ⁓ yeah, you're on your, you're on your lens, no social media. You're not, you're not up to date on any of this stuff, huh?

Nilla: That's true. That's true.

Duds: Yeah. not plugged or unplugged from the matrix. guess it depends on which way you look at it.

Bright: Right. Right. Well, so the question is how much are you paying attention to the news? Cause a lot of big stuff going on. mean, the new war or hope you're aware of it. ⁓ well that's good. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I figured that's kind of what we have to talk about. You know, I was telling Nilla a couple of weeks ago or maybe, you know, two months ago, whatever it was, I was like, ⁓ do we talk about Iran? I was like, it's so complicated. I don't want to mess with it.

Nilla: Thanks for the Sure.

Duds: Barely. I know, I mean, I'm aware of it.

Bright: And, ⁓ now I feel like we have to. So, it is completely dominating the news. And I do have a couple of other like little side stories. I didn't do any major research, but, but yeah, it's definitely taken over. And of course the Democrats, the libs, they're really trying to hammer Trump on this one. And I've got some stats on that too, man. ⁓ they, ⁓

Nilla: It's the only thing right now in the news at most.

Duds: Kind of a big deal, I think. Yeah, I'll be honest. The only thing I'd really know about it was when I shared that link to the Tucker Carlson episode. I had started listening to that today and I was like, it's pretty, pretty wild. Like it's worth listening to for sure.

Bright: Yeah. Okay, I haven't gotten to it yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've always liked Tucker Carlson, but is he turning into a Candace Owens? Is he kind of starting to go off the deep end here?

Duds: I don't know. It's you gotta listen to it. Be your own judge.

Bright: All right. That'll be my bedtime podcast tonight. We'll see how long it holds my attention. You know, also Steve-O was on Joe Rogan. So I wanted to listen to that. I listened to the RFK episode.

Nilla: Alright.

Duds: I didn't listen to that. did listen. Yeah, the RFK one was good, I thought. Pretty informative. Sounds like he's making changes, which is good.

Bright: Yeah. Yep. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I haven't listened to Joe Rogan and Steve-O yet, but they have a big like back and forth about trans transgender stuff. And yeah, Steve-O, you know, is more or less oblivious to a lot of things and, Joe Rogan gives it to a man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, I just saw like the five minute segment on, on X, but that alone, I'm like, I go, I gotta go check out this episode.

Duds: ⁓ really?

Nilla: Hmm.

Duds: ⁓ really?

Nilla: Hm. Hm. Yeah, yeah.

Bright: And I like Steve-O Steve-O's, you know, he's been on the resuto show several times passes through St. Louis, you know, ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. And I think he said certain things are off limits now, you know, I, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Right. Well, he tattooed a penis on his face.

Duds: Does he still do like Steve-O stuff? What does he do? Yeah.

Nilla: Now that's March, I think. He's getting old, okay? mean... Yeah, he said that like 10 years ago, least I'm sure. Like after the first Jackass movie, he's like, more of this. It's like, OK, we'll do something else though, just as stupid, you know.

Bright: I mean, that was like a year or two ago, maybe. I don't know if it's still there. It could still be there.

Duds: Oh my God. I didn't know he did that. I remember when he got the Steve-O tattoo of his own face on his back while he, yeah, they were driving like they were off roading or something. Right.

Nilla: while they were driving.

Bright: You

Nilla: Something like that. Yeah, it's like goddamn. No

Bright: Yeah. That kid turned out very good. I was never a big fan of Jackass. I always thought it was kind of stupid. Yeah.

Nilla: This is just stupid.

Duds: It was stupid. Some of it was funny, but couldn't believe some of that stuff they did.

Bright: Ugh. Well, what is not stupid is Donald Trump. He is taking it to Iran. tell you what, and he's serious about it. And the nice thing that what, least the conservative media is saying is he's not playing by the rules anymore. All the other presidents keep putting all their stuff and you know, they're like, ⁓ we'll deal with it four years from now. Let the next president deal with it.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Yeah, pass the buck. Yeah.

Bright: It's it's future America's problem. And Trump's like, no, we're, we're going to shut this shit down. The buck stops here. That's right. So I got a lot of information on this one because here's the thing. How much do you guys know about the history of Iran?

Nilla: The book stops here.

Duds: Man, you're going back in like long-term history, right?

Bright: Well, I only went back to world war two. I was like modern day history. not, I'm not going back too far. Yeah. I'm not going that far back. That is not relevant anymore. I'm sorry. Well, the biggest thing, you know, the biggest thing that I think people confuse is that Iran is not an Arab country. It is a Persian country. Persia was a whole empire.

Nilla: Good question. Okay. Yeah.

Duds: OK, because it goes back. The stuff that Tucker was talking about was back in like the third century.

Nilla: Biblical? Yeah, I know. Hmm?

Bright: Probably going back to the third century. I don't know, you know, ⁓ but it's, it's different than the Gulf States and the Arab countries, whole different culture, whole different, ⁓ traditions, whole different way of governance and all that stuff dating, dating back, you know? So I got some quick facts because even I was like, I mean, I know a little bit. I ran contra the hostages. I know that stuff.

Nilla: Well, probably.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Hmm. Hmm.

Bright: ⁓ you know, more recent history, but I was, I kind of had to be like, all right, where were we with world war two? Where did they fit in? You know, what happens? Right. Exactly. Yes. So I figured a very quick rundown of the history stuff, just to make sure that we're.

Nilla: Hmm.

Duds: Yeah, then it became Iran after World War II, Yeah. Something to do with Iran and Arian too, right? There's some relation to, to that.

Bright: Aryan. I don't know. Let me, let me see what I got. Well, in 1941, Iran gets freedom. Um, so Britain and the Soviet union, they occupied Iran in world war two to secure supply lines and oil and all of that stuff. Right. So that's really when the modern era of Iran started, when Britain and Russia occupied Iran, you know, to fight, to fight the Axis powers had to make sure we had the oil.

Nilla: Okay. Hmm.

Bright: Make sure that we have the straight right there. Right. So that's one of the biggest thing. It's a supply chain going, going in there. 1953. Um, there was a coup. So Iran elected the prime minister, Mohammed most most Sadega. I don't know. And so he was removed in a U S UK backed coup. Um, after Iran moved to nationalize their oil.

Nilla: Hmm?

Bright: So I, this, you know, I'm not up on this history, but what I'm told is this was a mistake. And I think the U S admits it now like, and we probably shouldn't have messed around back then, but ⁓ shit. Spilled my spilled my beer, but I got a towel. I got a towel right here, but they did. Why? Because of the oil, right? It's always about the oil. And we're not going to pretend that that's not a thing. Right. It went the oil.

Nilla: Mm.

Duds: But they did.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. No.

Duds: ⁓ they want the oil. Hey, I was right. Iran, it says it derives from Middle Persian Iran means something like land of the Aryans, referring to the Iranian people in a broad ethnic linguistic sense, not the later Nazi racial connotation.

Bright: Okay.

Nilla: Oh, okay. Gotcha. That's what I was thinking. And I was like, really?

Bright: Gotcha. And not like the song, like everybody's doing right now, right? They're all doing the memes. ran so far away. You haven't seen that? ⁓ my God. Well, you're off social media. Yeah. All right.

Nilla: I haven't seen that one. He's not on the social media. And I'm not really on it in the first place.

Duds: I haven't seen any of that. That's probably a good thing.

Bright: So then in the sixties and seventies, the Western nations tried to back modern modernization for the Iranians. So we had the, the Shah era modernization. So security crackdowns, but this created a lot of political and religious backlash that didn't go away. So it really made things complicated. You know, there were all these different factions in Iran. Uh, so it got kind of crazy. And then that was the sixties and seventies. And then in 1979, the Islamic revolution, that's what really, you know, flipped the script and I ran. the Shaw falls and the Ayatollah took over and that. Huh? Well.

Nilla: You

Duds: So how'd that happen? What happened there? You hear about this revolution, what exactly happened?

Bright: I didn't go into a deep dive into that. So we'll have to do our own separate research. Yeah. ⁓ I'm sure. But you know, it's all about, ⁓ Sharia law, Islamic state, ⁓ you know, all of that. And then of course,

Duds: I'd probably have to read multiple books to figure that out, you know?

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: So you said that they weren't a Muslim country, right? What did you say? Arab?

Bright: Well, I didn't say that. said, they weren't, they weren't, I said, there weren't a Muslim state. They weren't, they're not Arabs. They're Persians. Right. But they, the, the I, well, they're all Persian. Yeah. They're still Persian, but the, know, cause they're a Persian descent, but now the Ayatollah is running the country under a Muslim. ⁓ monarchy, if you will, a regime. Yeah, exactly. I guess it's not technically okay.

Duds: Right. So is the Ayatollah Persian or they? Yeah.

Nilla: Meh. Yeah, right.

Duds: Regime. Yeah.

Nilla: Well that's the

Bright: a monarchy but

Nilla: That's the problem right over there in general with all of the religious, you war. I mean, it's all that's been going on there for how many years now? Too many close borders with conflicting religions.

Bright: Well, right, Religion certainly. Well, Israel being the primary one, certainly. ⁓ but even the other, you know, Gulf States and Arab States. And we'll get into this. They don't, they don't play well with Iran, right? They, they don't, they're not a part of all of this. And you know, we've had the Abraham Accords, you know, a lot of these Gulf States has started to sign peace treaties with Israel and you know, they're starting to, to slowly come to the, the realization that maybe the West is right.

Nilla: Sure.

Bright: We want money and culture and we want to do fun things. Right. And it's these other countries, Iran, primarily, they're like, Nope, we want to be, we want to have our women in, you wrapped up no fun. Exactly. You know, ⁓ I don't know. I don't know.

Nilla: You

Duds: No fun.

Nilla: and they want to kill opposing religions.

Bright: Well, yes. And they want to, they want to kill America. They want to kill the West and the Iranian specifically want to kill president Trump. Right. They've, they've had a, an actual hit on him for years. Why? Well, he, he killed their top military general, um, in his first term. Huh? Yeah. So no, well, there's a lot of recent stuff. We'll get to that.

Duds: Right. And why? Why is that? Why? Yeah, why?

Nilla: What does recently mean? Right now? ⁓ okay. I didn't know if you meant just recently or if you meant, okay. You're on, right.

Bright: So in his first term, killed, I'm trying to think of his name off the top of my head now. Trump says it all the time. Mohammed. No, it's not Mohammed. Wouldn't, wouldn't that be a name? Mohammed. Mohammed. Mohammed. ⁓ That'd be like Smith Smith, Johnson Johnson.

Nilla: It's Friday, Muhammad. It's Friday, Muhammad. No, not Mohammed Mohammed. No, his first name is probably Mohammed though because they all are it seems like. Isn't that the most common name in the world? Yeah, I think it is actually.

Duds: Derka Derka, Muhammad Jihad. I think that is a name. I think they do. Some people are named that. ⁓ I'm pretty sure that there are Muhammad Muhammad's out there.

Nilla: You

Bright: Michael Michael, I don't know. Jesus. Jesus. What, what a name. Muhammad, I have to look that up, man. All right. So that, that led to the 1979 and 1981 hostage crisis, uh, where the U S embassy was siege. The hostages, you know, were, were taken and talk about drama. Now what's the movie? Um,

Nilla: I don't know. Jesus Jesus.

Bright: With Ben Affleck, great movie. What is it? Can we remember? No, no. With the, with the Iran hostage situation where they, go in pretending to be a movie crew. It sounds, it sounds something like, like fuck or something. It's like, fuck it about it. That's not it. What is it? Look it up. Grock it real quick. So that's a good movie. And then, you know, that gives you a little bit of background maybe in, how we got out of it. And then with Iran Contra.

Duds: Jack Ryan. ⁓ the Yeah, what was that? Yeah, I'll it up.

Bright: And that was Lady. Now we're getting into the 80s, but there's a really good, I think it's American Dad's song about Iran Contra, ⁓ which is, Argo. Yes, that's what it is, Argo. That's the Ben Affleck movie. Yeah.

Nilla: Is there Argo? Is it Argo? Okay. I was thinking older for some reason to actually, I don't know why.

Duds: ⁓ Argo, yeah.

Bright: Which I'm trying to, what does that stand for? Argo. It's, it was. It's like go fuck yourself.

Nilla: In the movie or like actually? ⁓ okay. Okay.

Bright: For in real life, this is real life. It's a true story. Look at, look that up. It was, it was a play on words or like an acronym.

Duds: Hmm, let's see. I don't see anything there.

Bright: ⁓ it's definitely there. Yeah, it's definitely there. I'm trying to, it's been a while since I've seen the movie, but it's like, go fuck yourself.

Nilla: Yeah, I don't know why you would think it would just be right there.

Duds: ⁓ maybe that was an inside joke in the movie or something. Yeah. Okay.

Bright: Yeah. ⁓ was an inside joke. Yeah. And that was the thing. They're like, ⁓ we're coming to film a movie.

Nilla: ⁓ okay.

Duds: I gotcha. Yeah, I that movie. It was been a while.

Bright: Yeah, it's definitely been a while for sure. All right. So then you had the Iran Iraq war, the first Gulf war, completely devastated Iran's economy, their society, their militaries, the regime for decades was completely. You know, shut down after, after that, but then they completely changed their playbook. So in the 1990s and the 2000, they started going into kind of where we're at today, the proxy war. Right. And that's when they've, they've aligned with Hezbollah and, ⁓ what's the other one? Well, they got, they got like four of them. ⁓ yeah. Hamas, Hezbollah, ⁓ the Houthis and then the, ⁓ Iraqi militia as well. So there are all these proxy wars that they go and they fight, they fight their wars for them. And they, they're the big, the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism.

Duds: from us.

Bright: ⁓ and that's more or less how they fight their wars. have their own military, their own Navy, their own air force. We'll get into that. But then they have all these different proxies Hamas and Hezbollah that fight their wars mainly with Israel. ⁓ and then also with the United States.

Nilla: Hm. Mm-hm.

Duds: So Iran operates a Navy?

Bright: They do. And we just sunk, we just sunk well in the straight. So pull up the, pull up the map. If you can. I'm trying to remember that it's the straight of a man, maybe it's the straight that's right there. And that's how all the oil gets out. So that's why everybody's all worried about it, because if they, if they try and shut down that straight, then none of the oil tankers again.

Duds: Where? Let's...

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: I think it's the Strait of Amman, if I'm remembering.

Duds: You know, it's funny I've been playing that X is an allies game.

Bright: Yeah, I gotta do it. gotta, buy into that.

Duds: It's pretty good. I think I actually like it more than the original one. Yeah, I think they've upgraded it quite a bit over the years.

Bright: Original? Really? Alright. All right. Well, that's good. If it's an improvement, sure. I'm down. Well, you're looking that up. So 2015 was the nuclear deal. Um, the one that Trump ended, um, that Obama started when the Obama just gave them a bunch of money. Yeah. Just here's a bunch of money to not do your nuclear stuff, which they did anyway. And then they just use all that money to fund terrorism and to build their military.

Nilla: See? ⁓ yeah.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: More money to do it with. Yeah. I mean, how many how many ⁓ American terrorists do we have to go over to other countries like over there in the Middle East and, you know, cause like hate crimes? That one doesn't exist, huh? Okay.

Bright: Zero?

Duds: looks like the Gulf of Amman. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that's to get to Qatar and United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, Iraq.

Bright: Yeah. The golf. Yeah. Well, there's a straight right there too. But so it's right. Right. Yeah. Right. Where I ran and I think a Mon meat, there's a straight and then the golf. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. There we go. Let's see. Let's see the visuals.

Nilla: Is it off the person, see?

Duds: Yeah, I could share this here. Can see it?

Bright: Yep, there it is. So right, right,

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Right here. So I guess that's important because if you control this area, you control all the ocean access for UAE, Kuwait, Iraq.

Bright: Right. Kuwait, Iraq. Yeah. So all of that comes out of the Persian Gulf goes through that straight. Correct. Yeah. Right.

Nilla: Hmm. Hmm.

Duds: So I can't get out anywhere else, there. But it is on this little sliver.

Nilla: Hmm. Alright.

Duds: You hear about Kuwait too and look how small Kuwait is and they put out a bunch of oil.

Bright: Yeah, the United Arab Emirates.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Bright: Yeah. Which is smaller down there. Then you got Saudi Arabia, which is big Dubai. can see where Dubai is right there. Right. Oman. Yemen. What's that going back to friends again, when Chandler Chandler goes to Yemen to get, to get away from Janice. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: cutter.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, got it. Well, guess cutters are small too then, huh?

Duds: Yemen. It's Yemen. you

Nilla: Yeah, yeah. Janus? Yeah, yeah.

Duds: What was the place where Peterman went? Do remember that in Seinfeld? Did he go to Yemen?

Bright: He went to no, uh, hold on. went to. Yeah. Oh, hold on. I could, I could think of this. That's Myanmar, Burma, Burma, Myanmar, Burma, Burma, Myanmar. Well, you look at where Israel is now, you know, and that's the whole thing. Israel's all the way over there. Like why does Iran even care other than the fact that they're Muslim and the, and Israel's Jewish.

Duds: Somewhere that was renamed,

Nilla: Check us out out here.

Duds: I think it was like in South America. Yeah, Burma.

Nilla: WUF and more. Mm.

Duds: Whatever. Well...

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Cause that's like the equivalent of like St. Louis to Kansas city.

Bright: God forbid. It's bigger than it has to be bigger than that. ⁓ Look at, pull, just pull up a ⁓ no, no.

Nilla: Yeah, right. ⁓ dunno, maybe a little bit, but not much, right?

Duds: I don't think so. I don't think so. Look, there's Missouri. Here's Missouri. Go over here. I didn't zoom out. And there is Israel to Iraq. Like, I think it's actually closer.

Nilla: Yeah. All right, a little bit, a little bit more. Yeah, actually, I don't know.

Bright: Put in, put into Google Maps.

Duds: I'm sorry, there's Iran. We went to, I was going to Iraq. So that's probably a little further.

Nilla: ⁓ that's true. Okay, it's further a little bit.

Bright: Yeah. Put in Google maps, Tehran, the capital of Iran to Israel. What's the capital of Israel? feel like I should know.

Duds: Jerusalem.

Nilla: question.

Bright: Jerusalem? I don't know, maybe.

Nilla: to be a part of it.

Bright: All right, directions. There we go. I mean, just put in.

Nilla: It is Jerusalem.

Bright: 22 hours. That's like, that's like.

Duds: 20? Okay. Well, but that's on like dirt roads.

Nilla: 22, really? Wow. Dung donkey.

Bright: That is true. Right. Can you even drive there? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Right. Yeah. That's, mean, that's like St. Louis to Vegas or something.

Duds: through a desert.

Nilla: you

Duds: You probably, you know, you've got to go through Baghdad. I don't think it's going to be like a quick drive.

Nilla: Well yeah. I don't know if you're gonna make it.

Duds: That still is pretty far. 1,881 kilometers. What does that mean?

Nilla: Yeah. Ooh, bath now.

Bright: That's like 1500 miles, probably. Give or take 1500 miles. Yeah. All right. All right. I told you, I was like, that's further than you think.

Nilla: Yeah, it's a amount. All right. Didn't look that far, but we weren't going to the edge. Well, I think we were looking at like the closest possible part of Iran, not necessarily Jerusalem, but yeah, still.

Duds: Well that's true.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's kind of in the middle. I know. And then you got Afghanistan, Pakistan, India. Right. So yeah. Iran kind of bridges the gap between it as a huge country. Exactly. You know, when you think of Persia, if you remember that the Persian empire, ⁓ I don't know if you can look that up. It was massive. I'm pretty sure, you know,

Duds: And Torrance are way over here like you're talking about the border. Come on.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Iran is a huge country. Massive,

Bright: So.

Nilla: Well, when, again, we're talking here, you know, in like the third, you know, I mean.

Bright: All right. Yeah. Love you. Yeah. Long, long, long time ago. All right.

Duds: You kind of wonder like what it is like over there, you know.

Bright: Well, so that's the thing. I've been just reading up a little bit on it, you know, back in the day, I guess, you know, pre world war two or, know, right after that, right? Like I ran and was nice from what I was told or what I saw online, you know, not that you can trust everything online, but drop a pin and do what, what are you going to do with it?

Nilla: sand.

Duds: Let's see if we can drop a pin.

Nilla: and see what it looks like the city.

Duds: I was, yeah, but I don't think that Google Maps is over there. Nah, well, let me do it.

Bright: I bet you it is. I mean, it looks like it.

Nilla: Really? Well, it didn't look like it. Only like certain spots where people, yeah, like probably took pictures, you know, that's inside of a place too, so you're really seeing anything. But they do have Starbucks. Well, they are a bank, so.

Bright: That's a Starbucks.

Duds: Starbucks? I don't think so. There's not a single person in any of these pictures. It's like the, what's that, the interview. Do you remember the interview when they go to North Korea and all the stuff is fake?

Nilla: Yeah Truman Show. ⁓

Bright: Yeah.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Old city or something, most of the town.

Bright: That was, that was like one of the first movies that went straight to Netflix because they wouldn't release it in theaters because they thought it would.

Nilla: Really? Wasn't that around some time that was going on? Some wars? Or something? The first time. Yeah.

Bright: Yeah. I was a right when Trump came into office maybe. you know, yeah, the first time and North Korea was trying to bomb us or whatever. Yeah. Random baby. Normal baby. That's the thing. I'm sure there's probably a lot of normal people over there, right?

Duds: That's a random baby. This is weird. There's no people in this country.

Nilla: I'm sure. Normal, what's normal anymore?

Bright: Well, yeah, yeah, there was no normal. All right. So let's get into while you're playing around with that, Doug. ⁓ let's get into what the hell happened. Right. So the United States and Israel, launched this coordinated attack and we targeted Iranian missile sites, nuclear facilities, air defense systems, and their military command center. ⁓ the goal was simple cripple Iran's ability to retaliate.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Right? So this wasn't a warning shot. This was a quick decapitation strike. That was the whole goal. And you know what? America does that better than anybody else. We've seen this happen to. Huh?

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Seems like it recently.

Duds: But is it working? Is it working in this case?

Bright: Yes. Iran. So ⁓ first off, Iran has no more air defenses or air force. So I had this later on down in my list, but their air force is all from the 1970s. they do. So, right. I didn't get into that. They got a lot of drones and they have a lot of ballistic missiles and stuff like that, but their air force is done. So

Nilla: I think so.

Duds: Zareed. Yeah, what about all their drones though? All their newer stuff? Cause I, Tucker was talking about that with this analyst guy that was saying that they're burning through these like Tomahawk and cruise missiles like crazy. And they can't even get replenished fast enough for the U S's.

Bright: Iran or us?

Nilla: I'll bet. ⁓ really?

Bright: Right. Well, Trump said that we have unlimited munitions. He said we have as many as we want. So I don't know. Now something that they are saying.

Nilla: Mm.

Duds: I don't think that we have unlimited. ⁓

Bright: Well, I guess it depends how quickly can you manufacture them? Well, so somebody was talking about that on the news the other day and they said, I don't know, $4 million or something for one missile. And we're using these $4 million missiles to shoot down these $4,000 drones. And yeah, that's what they're saying. They're like, we can't be using these, these Tomahawk missiles to shoot down these drones. And that's what I ran there. They've invested a lot in that.

Duds: You know how expensive these the Tomahawk missiles are? You have a big discrepancy there.

Nilla: That's crazy.

Bright: You know, the future of the military, you know, of, of the war, guess is missiles and drones. So, the thing is. Right. And, certainly, I mean, the U S we sent over one way drones for the first time. We've never done this before. There's such cheap drones. We send them over, they do their thing and then we don't, we don't need them back.

Duds: Right. Well, that is the future of the warfare. We've seen that in Ukraine.

Nilla: Well if they're $4,000 yeah, mean Yeah, right

Bright: So we have that capability too. We have drones, you know, sure. They could be less than that even. don't know, but nothing beats a, nothing beats a, an F 16 or, you know, I don't know what the actual B 52 bombers, right? We can go over there and completely cripple them, which is what we did. Right? Like there's no ifs ands or they could have as many drones as they want. A drone isn't going to take out.

Duds: It could be 50,000, it'd still be way better.

Nilla: Yeah, B-52 bomber.

Duds: Yeah, but it's a billion dollar jet, you know?

Nilla: Yeah, right. Yeah, you know.

Bright: You know, these big military facilities and nuclear sites and... Yeah. Yeah. Well...

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Unless they run out of all their other munitions, they overwhelm them. It's unknown how many they have. Those tomahawks, it says, are two to two and a half million per missile. That is a lot of money.

Bright: They were, yeah, two, I, yeah, I heard 4 million earlier. Iran makes more. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Iran makes more ballistic missiles, I think, than anywhere else in the world, or at least anywhere else in that region. I don't know compared to the U S per se. Uh, but that's all they were doing. They were just pumping out these missiles and then they sent them to Hezbollah. They send them to Hamas, right? They attack Israel. So.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Some export versions are four million.

Nilla: Yeah. RRRR

Bright: What else? Iran launched 180 missiles and drones towards Israel and other regional targets, which included us bases in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Buran, Buran, Buran. And now all those countries. Yeah. Now all those countries are like, you, Iran. We're we're going to attack you too. You know, I don't know. They've actually a hundred percent committed to it, but they do not like the fact that.

Duds: Bye, Ren. ⁓

Nilla: Yeah, right.

Bright: You know, I ran, I ran just start, they're just firing on everybody, you know, right there. They're in trouble. They're just trying to flood the skies with missiles. Uh, but most of them never make it through to their final target. You know, that's another thing. You know, there's the iron dome. There's all these other things. All right. This is a

Nilla: Fire at will. Yeah, right.

Duds: I think we need to ask the question of why was so, ⁓ who was it Marco Rubio? It was talking. did hear that, ⁓ speech he gave about the attack and it talked about how they heard that Iran was going to, or that Israel was going to attack Iran. And then Iran was going to attack the United States in retaliation for Israel attacking them. And they already had their missiles. ⁓ like preparing and that Rubio said that that's why we struck first. So why, but why, why would Iran attack us if Israel attacks them? Why not? Why don't they just attack Israel? Like, why are we involved in this situation at all?

Bright: Yeah, well, I mean... Great. Well, I mean they- They attack Israel all the time and let's be honest, United States runs the show, right? Like we're in charge and we're the biggest, most bad-ass country and military in the world. And Iran hates us. They hate us. Right? So that's what I was going to, that's what I was going to say.

Nilla: Well, Right. Yeah. If they attack this, where do they attack?

Duds: But I want to know why, why do they hate us? Why do they hate us? What is, what's the underlying problem?

Nilla: I'm just curious, know. because we're trying to tell them what to do, probably, because we're powerful, we're opposing religions, because there's so many factors.

Bright: It's religion is probably the number one factor. They probably hate that we, that we aligned with Israel. Yeah. That's probably religion. It could also be Western values, but.

Duds: There you go. think that's, I think that's the bottom line.

Nilla: It usually is. It usually is.

Duds: I think when it all comes down to it, it's religious. Well, but that's all based off religion too, right?

Nilla: Yeah, right. Which is funny though too, actually it's so crazy about how religion is the biggest factor for war, but yet almost, well, I thought anyways, most religions besides maybe they're specifically, don't they kind of say like, you know, not to kill? But then therefore if they're opposing, you know, it's okay, you know.

Bright: Sure, yeah. Yes. But all of the wars back in the day, was the Crusades. was the Muslims versus the Catholics. You know, those, you know, those were the wars, right? ⁓

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Yeah.

Nilla: But you kind of would think that would not happen anymore these days, but nope, still does, especially over there.

Bright: I know it is crazy. Yeah, it is nuts. And that's atheists are over here like, what's going on?

Duds: Still going on. And it's the biggest thing in the world. It's the biggest reason for war, I think. And that's why... Let's tie it into it also, yes.

Nilla: Well, and money. Somebody's making money off of war. Of course. Even though...

Duds: Who's making the money?

Nilla: Well, that's a good question. like actually, how do you make money? How do these people, whoever is making the money, make it when it costs so much money? Because they're not paying for it. We are.

Duds: We just want to watch soccer.

Bright: Right.

Duds: Right. Exactly.

Bright: Well, and goes back to the nuclear deal and, you know, Obama and Biden, Biden unfroze a bunch of billions of dollars, you know, and what do they do? They take that money and they immediately invest it in their military.

Duds: We, the people, you know, not the politicians pay for it in our blood and sweat, you know, and they just make money. They make money off of everybody else. And I, I mean, it kind of goes back to the fraud too. And then stealing the money from us, you know, I think that's why people are, people are getting way more information now. So they're starting to question all this stuff a lot more. Right. And

Nilla: Yeah, exactly. work. They just give it away. Yeah. Well, does. Right.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. X.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: And now we look at like, well, are we as powerful? Are we as right as we, you know, claim to be? We don't know. So.

Bright: So, so that first off, are we as powerful? Yes, I think so. ⁓ right. I also think so, but the media does not think so. The media is rooting for Iran in this situation because they're so anti-Trump.

Nilla: to some degree.

Duds: Well, Tucker brought up a well, because they're against Trump. Yeah, that's a whole other separate story. Like, yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And not even anti-Trump. It's anti-American almost, Which is sad.

Bright: Right. It is a separate story. Well, it's both. It's both, but it's probably fueled by their hatred of Trump. And then it turns into this hatred of America. And then it's all about the Iranian people. All right.

Nilla: Sure. Yeah.

Duds: Right. Now they have Iranian flags in their profile. Do they have Iranian flags in their profile now? Do they really? Do they really?

Nilla: Yeah, they care more about terrorists than they do ourselves.

Bright: Of course, of course they do. I'm sure. I'm sure. Of course. I mean, I don't know, man. Well, and I had this somewhere down the line, but right after this all happened, we saw women in Iran taking off their her jobs, dancing in the streets. There was a protest, an anti protest of pro Trump rally, I guess. It's not a protest, a rally in St. Louis of Iranians. Pro Trump.

Nilla: Probably. I mean, I don't know. ⁓ yeah. A protest protest.

Bright: Go USA screw the Ayatollah. That was downtown St. Louis pro Trump rally after the war last weekend, you know, after everything started. I mean, we've seen that stuff. The media, the media won't cover it properly.

Nilla: Hmm. Hmm. Wow. When was that? ⁓ Okay. Well yeah, they don't want to their things in their heads anymore.

Duds: Some people, some people appreciate it.

Nilla: Well, no. Hmm.

Duds: Well, who is watching the TV media, the mainstream media? mean, do people watch that? So maybe enough social media, like I can't, I'm not watching the news on television. That's all just propaganda. Like you can see it, you know, they're all bought and paid for whoever's, you know, advertising on their channels and who owns the companies that run these media stations.

Bright: I

Nilla: Old people?

Bright: I do that too. It is propaganda. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah,

Bright: For sure. Yes. Yes. Yes. And they all have their niche, you know, Fox news. They're like, well, we've got the conservatives. We'll take that CNN. We need the libs. No, I know it is. It is right.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah, I mean, I honestly, cannot even stand to watch it because it's so one sided. It's like you have to agree with us or that's it, you know? And it goes both ways.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah.

Bright: Right. And then that's what they, that's what the, yeah. And that's what they bank on. What is interesting though, is Fox news has great ratings. CNN and MS DNC have terrible ratings. So have they? Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. It does. Mm.

Duds: They always have though. And CNN, ⁓ yeah, they've been tanking for years and years.

Nilla: I mean, I think they used to be better, but I mean, for the last, I don't how many years.

Bright: Right. Well, why do they keep doing what they're doing then? And then Fox news? Okay. I understand. Well, you got.

Duds: Cause I don't think they care if they make money. I think they honestly make enough money off of advertisements and stuff from these companies and they.

Nilla: right off.

Bright: You think, do you think they're, they think they're doing the righteous thing? Like we'll lose money because we're doing the right thing.

Duds: I think they're just. No, think they're still probably getting the propaganda out to a certain percentage of the population. So it's effective and I think they pay for it. ⁓

Nilla: Maybe, maybe. Yeah.

Bright: Yeah. For some reason people trust CNN. They think they're more, ⁓ central than Fox news. Right. But that's, it's not the case anymore. Right. No, no. Yeah. Right. Well, Caroline Levitt tour into. Yeah. Sure. Well, she tore into CNN and I'm trying to remember the name of the, the reporter, the white house correspondent, ⁓ at the press briefing the other day.

Duds: Right. Cause that's what they grew up with. It's not the same as it was 40, 50 years ago, you know, like all these channels have changed so much. But if that's what you've been watching your whole life, you know, you don't know.

Nilla: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Exactly, changed. No. No. Yeah Well yeah, right.

Bright: ⁓ she asked a question, ⁓ the CNN reporter and, ⁓ and Caroline Levitt was like, you got, your whole goal is to make Trump look bad. You, you disagree with anything that we say, anything that we do. ⁓ she gave it to her. Caitlin Collins. Caitlin Collins is her name. Yeah. Yeah, I should have. should, there's just too much. got too much to share on the group chat. You know, I w now I, I hold it for the pod. I hold it for the pod.

Nilla: I'm you didn't... I'm surprised you didn't share it in the group chat.

Duds: Yeah, come on, man. He's got two podcasts going now, Greg, come on.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. It's true.

Bright: All right, so let's do a, let's do a scoreboard check. So, and this is, I'm not being light about this. These are the facts. So, you know, yes, it is a scoreboard check, but we've had six service members that were killed. You know, I mean, that's, that's a big deal. You know, nobody, nobody likes to see that. Um, we've had 18. Uh, you know, I don't know if they a hundred percent said, um, yeah.

Duds: And what were they, how were they all killed? Alright.

Bright: I mean, not that I could find. I don't know if was a plane that went down or on a strike. I know, I know.

Nilla: the Clintons.

Duds: I don't like your lack of information here, Brevin. You're supposed to be informing me.

Nilla: He wasn't planning on getting into the details of the nitty gritty.

Bright: I'm trying. can only do so much research though, in the time that I have. ⁓ so we had 18 seriously wounded and then we had three F 15 fighter jets that got shot down by. Kuwait. Yeah. Right. By friendly fire. Right. They did though all of those crew members survived, but that was friendly fire. So it was not Iran. So, ⁓ so us losses are limited, you know, again.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: by Kuwaiti missiles. And they survived, though, right? Those guys survived.

Nilla: Yeah, right.

Bright: Anytime you got people dying. Exactly. Right. It's terrible. Of course. You know, they made the ultimate sacrifice. You know, it sucks. There's nothing to be said. There's approximately 12 Israelis that have been killed. This says 1200 injured. ⁓ And most of that damage is due to ballistic missile strikes ⁓ in the initial retaliation. So ⁓ direct.

Duds: Yeah, tell that to the families like.

Nilla: Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Bright: from Iran. Now the Iran military losses 1000 Iranian military personnel killed. And then the biggest one is the Ayatollah their supreme leader and 48 senior commanders eliminated. So I guess they killed the Ayatollah in the initial strikes and then Iran's like who are we going to vote in and we're just like screw you wipe them all out. Right. They got nobody.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. They have nobody.

Bright: So now, the thing is, like, who's volunteering for that job?

Nilla: They're afraid, probably.

Bright: You would think so. And so now they're just, they're really trying to hold on. in my research, basically it said like, I ran will retaliate, but they'll hold back on purpose because if they, if they launch enough of initiative where they kill enough Americans, we're going to be like, fuck you. we'll, we'll go all out, wipe, wipe them out. And then their regime will be toppled. So their goal at this point is to maintain.

Nilla: Yeah. wipe them off the face of the earth. I mean...

Bright: try and retaliate just enough that it looks like they mounted a counteroffensive, without crippling their, their regime and their power over the Iranian people. Right. They got to have something because it's all about power. It's all about money. Like they're living the good life while the Iranian people are probably, you know, completely, you know, ⁓

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have something left, you know. Yeah, right. Mm-hmm.

Bright: Not to mention something that the other big thing that irks me about the Democrats and the media.

Duds: Who knows?

Bright: Why are we in this war? Why did Trump do this? What's the end game? You know, another endless war, yada, yada, yada. Iran just slaughtered 30,000 of their own people. mean, that's genus. Is that not genocide?

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: I did hear that. Well, I don't know.

Nilla: Yeah, you can't allow that. mean, you know, even though you don't like, you know, we're here, but you can't allow that to happen in anywhere in the whole world. I mean, you know, like if you're in power.

Bright: So how, why are they silent on that? Why, why are the Democrats, they, they forgot about that? That was, that was a month ago.

Nilla: They forgot on purpose, but yeah.

Bright: So that's one, two is they're developing a nuclear bomb. That is their whole goal. And so I have the information here. think it said they were maybe six months to a year away from a nuclear. Yeah. Six months to a year away from a nuclear weapon.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. You're right. Where we know that exactly? You know? Yeah, we're right.

Duds: I feel like they always say that.

Bright: They do, but they, the reason that they are, they're always six months to a year is because we keep crippling them. So they have to kind of like start over. So their main thing is that they need to enrich uranium. Right. Okay. So that's what they're doing. They're also working on the missile, but they haven't been able to get an actual warhead developed, but if they enrich enough uranium, they could have, they could create a dirty bomb.

Nilla: Well, yeah, right, right. Mm-hmm.

Duds: Is this the same kind of thing with the weapons of mass destruction that were in Iraq that they never found? Hmm. That seemed like we spent a lot of time over there looking for WMDs that were never around. But that was the Republicans doing it then, you know? And I guess they're doing it again.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah.

Bright: Well, and I think that that is probably the argument that the Democrats are making that we've done this before. Right? Yeah. We've done this before. Yes. Yes.

Nilla: Or were they?

Bright: Yeah, and it's the Republicans doing it now.

Nilla: Well, mean, yeah, basically. Yeah.

Bright: But that's the thing, that's what I'm saying. Like Trump is different, right? You never know what he's going to do. You know, he's not, I don't, feel like he's not doing this for the same reason that Bush did it because of his dad or because of oil, you know, I mean, the oil prices are going up before the midterms, right? So like in theory, it's bad politically, but I don't think Trump cares. Trump is like, what is best for America?

Nilla: ⁓ yes. Yeah, Yeah, I think a lot has changed since then. You sure? Mm-hmm. True. Well, yeah, right.

Bright: And maybe what's best for the Iranian people.

Nilla: Yeah, true.

Duds: Yeah, at this point I have to kind of leave it to Trump and hope he's in it for the best for the American people, you know?

Bright: Well, that's all we can do. We don't know enough. We don't know the, you know, Trump was voted in. He still has overwhelming support from the Republican party. ⁓ if nothing else. So I think, I think you just kind of have to back them and, and, and Hexeth and

Nilla: Right. We won't. We eventually.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Hey, as long as that's ⁓ more than 50%, then, you know, I mean, that's all we can hope.

Duds: I mean, it's, guess a good measure of how people feel about it. You know, well, and only time will really kind of tell because I feel like it could all backfire on them, you know.

Nilla: Alright.

Bright: Yeah.

Nilla: Get good. Yeah.

Bright: Well, could. All right. So that's the last, that's, that's what I have to wrap this up. So I have what happens next and what could lead to world war three. And then we'll move on from this topic. Right. So a couple of possibilities. Iran escalates, which I don't think ends well for them. ⁓ what they probably do is they continue to choose their proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas to try and hit Israel. And then eventually they quote unquote surrender. Right. Or they. They say, we'll, we'll stop. And then the U S backs down because we don't want a forever war. We don't want troops on the ground. And then we go right back to where we were. Or, ⁓ Iran tries to close the, here it is the straight of Hormuz or Maz. Basically the, the golf of, yeah. ⁓ and, tries to shut down the, the oil trade. Right. So that could, yeah. Yeah. Then, then it becomes a bigger issue. Certainly.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. All right. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that worked them out. Right.

Duds: oil.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: ⁓ cause we need, we need global energy. wouldn't go over well. Now the sidebar, the U S sunk one of their ships with a torpedo. The first time that we've done that since world war two, that we've sunk a ship with a torpedo. Pretty interesting, right?

Nilla: Yeah, that's not going to go over well either.

Duds: Hmm. And now they still use torpedoes.

Bright: Only against the Iranian Navy. Right. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. So last couple of things, five things that could trigger world war three. So Iran closes the straight. So about 20 % of the world's oil supply moves through the straight of hormones every day. If Iran tries to block it, then oil prices would spike overnight. Global markets could crash.

Duds: The 1970s Iranian Navy.

Nilla: there's is also yeah exactly

Bright: We've already kind of seen that it's been up, it's been down, it's been up and down.

Duds: So Iran uses their Navy or their position there to control that straight. Is that what it is?

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Yes. Right. Yes. Yeah. And then we'd have to go in with our Navy. We would win, then who, I don't know that maybe then they escalate and then, then it somehow compounds into world war three. I don't know.

Duds: Is our Navy in that, like that area.

Bright: We're all- ⁓ we moved all of our stuff over there. We've got the aircraft carriers, the destroyers, the submarines.

Nilla: serious one sir.

Duds: That's what I'm saying in that. I guess that's the Persian Gulf. Are we in the Persian Gulf? ⁓ yeah.

Bright: Yeah. ⁓ big time, big time, man. We, did all of that. We knew this was coming because we moved all of our stuff in there beforehand. And then our ships went dark. So they put on these transponders so that they can be tracked when they want to be tracked. as soon as they're. Yeah, it's like GPS. Yeah. But then they shut it down when they don't want people to know where they're moving. And so, right. Right. So when they turned off their phone.

Nilla: guess so, or right outside anyways if not. That seems like that's what, didn't Trump do that?

Duds: It's like a GPS. They turn their phone off? ⁓ crap.

Nilla: Didn't Trump do that though with something else where he like did something in advance before anybody knew what was going on. Well, general public. then basically later on, we're like, ⁓ well, that's why he did that because he was getting ready to attack somebody like the other leader.

Bright: So the last time remember he, last time he flew those B 52s West to San Diego. And that was a, it was a distraction. Everybody was like, ⁓ he's flying him to San Diego. Like, but then the real ones flew overnight and did the bunker bombs and I ran, you know, so he, it was a look over here. then he went and went and got them over here.

Nilla: Right, yeah.

Duds: That's right.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. So he knows what he's doing. mean, you know, was, I mean, like I said.

Bright: Of course he does, I think he does.

Duds: That's pretty nuts that those guys flew all the way from Missouri, too, didn't they?

Bright: ⁓ yeah. That's where they come out of roughly is in between St. Louis and Kansas city. Yeah. Yes. They fly nine stop the whole way. They need refueling, right? So they have to get refueled halfway there. And then they got to fly back nonstop. They don't land in Germany. They, you know, they go there and then they come back. It's like an 18 hour round trip, I think. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty nuts. It's pretty, it's pretty cool and good for a good for Missouri.

Duds: But I think they flew nonstop all the way over there. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Duds: Right. Yeah.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, right.

Duds: That's

Bright: ⁓ all right. Number four, Hezbollah joins the war for full scale. have 50,000 fighters and 150,000 rockets and missiles. So they could launch a massive attack on Israel. And then Israel would respond with an invasion of Lebanon and that would just escalate everything. Well, that's where Hezbollah operates out of Lebanon. Yeah. Yeah. And then Hamas out of, ⁓

Duds: What's Lebanon got to do with it?

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Snubbull.

Duds: Well, I guess I gotta kill all them,

Nilla: Mmm.

Duds: I didn't even know Lebanon was involved in this. Like, ⁓ you attack me. I'm going to go attack those guys. Like, why don't you guys just fight each other and then leave everybody else out of

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, they're not well, sure. Exactly. You know,

Nilla: Everybody else just attacked somebody else.

Bright: All right. Number three reason that world war three could start. ⁓ if I ran hits or one of their proxies hit a major U S base and causes, you know, actual casualties, or they take out a carrier, an aircraft carrier, world war three. then, then, then we have to have boots on the ground. We have to have invasion. have to strike.

Nilla: Yeah, they'll say the same thing about us. Why don't we just stay out of it?

Duds: I beg your order.

Nilla: Mm.

Bright: You know, so one large American casualty event would change the political equation like that. All right. All right. If I ran somehow successfully tested or deploys any kind of nuclear weapon, including a dirty bomb, then we have to go in. We got to stop them. Right. So that would start world war three. And then number one, if Russia or China intervene directly.

Nilla: I'm sure. Yep. Mm-hmm.

Bright: Because they, for some reason are allies with Iran. makes no sense other than they want to align against the West. Right? Why does Russia keep doing this and China? Like, it doesn't make sense to me. I, know Iran is crazy. They're run by crazy people. I mean, I guess Russia is too China. don't, China. don't think it's run by a crazy person is probably it's just run by somebody.

Nilla: I mean, who's not? ⁓ Obviously.

Duds: It depends on what you mean. Bye, Chinese guy.

Bright: very tactical, you know, a Chinese guy, right? Yes, the Chinese guy. the like numero uno. Z, Z Chinese guy. President Xi. It's like a Xi. It's actually an X, but it sounds like a J, Xi or G. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

Duds: Z? I thought it Z. I it was Z. Was that President Z?

Nilla: Mm. Yeah. Who's Z? ⁓

Duds: Jeezy

Nilla: ⁓ you gotcha.

Bright: So World War III doesn't start with one big explosion. It starts with a bunch of smaller conflicts that all start to

Nilla: Hmm?

Duds: Yeah, I don't think you want any of that to happen though.

Bright: All right. No, I want the U S to go in kick ass and get out. Now regime change. You know, that's the big thing that Democrats are.

Nilla: No, no, nobody. Take names.

Duds: See, I don't know if I can commit to all that. I need more information. I need to know. I need to see all the facts in front of me.

Nilla: You're not gonna see that, so... The facts that you know... Well, I mean, sure. Yeah, it's biased.

Bright: Well, I just gave you all the facts. What more facts do you want?

Duds: You got all that off of AI. I can't, I don't know if that's real or not. You're getting it from your conservative ⁓ sources or trying to push all this warmongering.

Bright: I have sources.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: I've got sources. All right. Well, let's, let's tone it down a little bit. Should we switch to local in the loo?

Nilla: Thank you. I guess I mean man, I don't know pretty heavy

Duds: I mean, after that...

Bright: I know we went almost an hour, almost an hour on Iran, 45 minutes at least. Yeah. Yeah. 10 minutes of fluff. 45 minutes on Iran, which is I think right on target. I think we're doing good time-wise. Yeah. I think we got about half an hour. can wrap, wrap this sucker up. All right. So local in the Lou, I've got just a mashup of stories. Most of them are sports related.

Nilla: Yeah. Sure.

Duds: Murr, what's your next topic?

Bright: ⁓ but a couple of non sports related so we won't spend a significant time on any of these but

Duds: I heard that there was like a new podcast in St. Louis. I don't know what that is.

Bright: You want to start with that? All right. We can, had it, I had it on here. So yes, the, the, ⁓ successful launch of the city SC posse podcast, ⁓ already has three times as many listeners as NFNP.

Duds: Tell us, hear about it.

Nilla: Damn soccer fans.

Duds: Just because you listen to it three times doesn't mean you have more listeners.

Bright: ⁓ we got more listeners than that, but so yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that helps. You know, it's the soccer, it's a little bit more specific than what we're doing here on, on NFNP. And I got a little bit of a boost. ⁓ you know, got some retweets and things like that from some other soccer accounts. I didn't do anything. I just posted it and somebody picked up on it and reposted and the person that reposted at 1300 followers. And that's more or less.

Nilla: Pretty big following here in St. Louis, you know, for soccer.

Duds: Yeah, how'd that happen? What'd you do there? ⁓ man.

Bright: And that was my whole idea here. Cause exactly. And that's how it works. And my hope is my whole hope in launching this podcast one, I was like, that'll be fun to talk soccer. and two, right. Sure. Yeah. Not just you guys who don't know soccer, right. ⁓ yeah, we all, we all played at some point, right? It's how long did you make it? ⁓ Nilla, how long did you make it with soccer? You never played at all. Really?

Nilla: That's how works. Exactly.

Duds: Like a whole spiderweb of posting.

Nilla: with other people like your brother who knows soccer? Yeah, right, like what?

Duds: Hey, I played soccer.

Nilla: Never played at all. Maybe in gym class. No.

Bright: That's crazy. But you didn't play like even when you were like first, second, third grade, you never did a soccer. Tennis.

Nilla: I don't think I ever really played anything besides I played baseball at the YMCA actually. My like seventh grade maybe? That's about it. Besides in high school I did play. Yeah that's true I did. I'm a freshman and maybe sophomore. That's about it.

Bright: Yeah. Didn't you play tennis for a while at Lindbergh? Yeah.

Duds: then straight to Frisbee Golf Professional.

Bright: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Amateur. Neil is a good, ⁓ he's a good disc golfer. There's no doubt about that. ⁓ yeah. I know as the, as the weather starts to turn, we'll, we'll to hit the links. That's for sure. Yeah.

Nilla: B- ⁓

Duds: Minor League or amateur. O for all.

Nilla: Yeah, need to get out there actually. It's like some itchin' here. It's getting warm. Yeah. For sure. I guess they still call them links. know. I was like, you know what? Why not?

Duds: They call it the links on Frisbee Golf.

Bright: I don't know. The cages, the, I don't know. Ah, yeah, the fields.

Duds: Sure. We'll go with that.

Nilla: The cages here. The fields.

Duds: Well, you know, I will say that I had some couple of things written down here that I had to take notes on that that I was going to bring up. Is the, uh, I actually did learn something from your podcast, a couple of things. So you guys talked about a strategy of letting the other team have the ball and you play defense. And I didn't even think that would be like a, a strategy somebody would use.

Nilla: That's soccer.

Bright: about the pod city SC. Yeah. All right, all right, I love it, okay.

Duds: And soccer. And they use that? That's like a known thing, huh?

Bright: Absolutely. Yeah. So it's, it's the counter-attack strategy. So you let the other team have the majority of the possession, but because you're locked down defensively, they can't really, it's tough for them to break your defense because you're playing, you're playing most of your people back. And then the second that you get the ball, you, you know, you hope that they, yeah, they over commit because they, they're, then they start getting annoyed. Right.

Nilla: Hmm.

Duds: Push.

Nilla: Hail Mary.

Duds: So they got more forwards.

Bright: So, right. So they end up pushing their defenseman like a little bit forward and then they end up with only two or three guys back. And then all of a sudden it's five on three and you only need the ball for a fraction of a minute. You know, you attack and so that's more or less what that's. Well, it's it. Yeah, potentially it takes a lot of energy to play defense. It's more fun to play offense. Right. And I mean, look at hockey.

Nilla: Too far forward, right? Mmm.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Right.

Duds: You probably can serve in energy playing defense, Yeah, potentially.

Nilla: was thinking that too maybe. Little bit.

Duds: It does. Sure.

Nilla: Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure.

Bright: You could have the same players on the ice playing offense when they have control of the puck and they work it. They're doing great. The defensive players are gassed, gassed the offensive players. They're doing good. Right. But the defensive players are gassed because they just ended up chasing the puck around. And so that is true to an extent, I think a lesser extent with soccer. It's boring. You know, it's boring soccer. And so the counterattacks are always fun, but the big thing is you need to capitalize on.

Nilla: Hmm. Yeah, true. That's true.

Duds: That's true.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: You know, and we were good at that in year one, but not most recently. And then in our first game, we had the majority of the possession. And then in this last game, we got completely dominated in possession and then we couldn't mount any attack.

Duds: So we don't use that strategy.

Nilla: Okay.

Bright: Well, I don't know what our new strategy is as a team yet. At the moment is it's sucking. Yes. Yes. Lose games. Yes. So we're, we're ⁓ one and one after two games. we're in second to last place. There's only two teams in the conference that have yet to win a game. Yeah. So us in Kansas city, we're the only teams that have yet to win a game. And we're only two games in. Don't get me wrong. No, it's not. Let's start like panic.

Duds: Lose. Lose games.

Nilla: No strategy.

Duds: So are they one and one and one or one and one? Yeah.

Nilla: Okay.

Duds: Oof, something loser below us.

Nilla: Thanks

Bright: But this last game, you'll get the full rundown when we release episodes four and five of the City SC posse. But yeah, this last game was not good. Yes, no, no, no. What else did you learn though? That's for sure.

Duds: Oh yeah, I don't want to step on that. I don't want to step on that one too much. But the listen, listen for the analysis. Oh, something else I thought was cool. I think I kind of knew about it was the, uh, loaning players to other teams, like a lease before, before you commit to buying their contract. And I was wondering how, how do the players like that? Like, do they, they're on board with that kind of stuff?

Bright: Yep. Yep. It's like a lease.

Nilla: Hmm.

Bright: So you can do both. Yeah. Usually yes, because if you're getting loaned out, which is basically you go borrow our player because they're not getting

Duds: But these aren't other teams that are in the same league, right? These are like in sometimes. OK.

Bright: Sometimes it is. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes, ⁓ usually like in England, you go to a lower tier. So if you're in the, if you're in the premier league and you're not getting play time, right. So you're just sitting on the bench, but the team believes in you. They either think like, okay, you're just not quite ready yet, or maybe you're a little too young, but we want to keep you. You're going to be a good player, but you're not, you're, we're just not ready for you yet. Then they'll loan you out to a lower division team. You'll go play there.

Nilla: Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, okay. Mm-hmm. No.

Bright: And then they can bring you back. Or you have a loan with the option to buy, which is like the, we were talking about. We just got this new forward. We have them on a six month loan, which is a short-term loan. And at six months, we can say like, all right, this is working out. We want to sign him.

Nilla: Mm, okay.

Duds: Is that a one sided, is that a one sided by clause or is it like both teams still have to agree?

Bright: I think it's one sided. We've probably already agreed to terms, but we have the option now after this six month trial to say yes or no. You guys take them back. We don't want them. And then the other.

Nilla: Yeah. That's interesting, that's weird.

Duds: The team that's loading them couldn't just come back and say we want them like in the middle of it. Like that's contract.

Bright: They, they can, but they had to pay a penalty. Yeah. They had to pay a penalty. So if they want to recall them three months into the six month loan, they got to pay us a bunch of money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So most loans are usually at least a year. Sometimes two. Yeah. Short-term loan deals are, you know, that's, that's different. So, yeah. So we all thought this was a little different now. Yeah.

Nilla: Not much. ⁓ okay.

Duds: ⁓ penalty? Okay. ⁓ God. OK. That's interesting.

Nilla: Hmm. I guess it on the interest rate, you know.

Duds: Huh.

Nilla: That is weird, I've never heard of that and I don't know.

Duds: I think it's cool, but I wonder how like if that would ever work in other sports because it seems like a I guess interesting way to do a trade.

Bright: Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Nilla: Well, again, like you said, if it was in a different division or a different, like, you know, league or something like that, then I guess it makes more sense. Cause if otherwise you'd be, it'd be weird.

Bright: Could you imagine, well, could you imagine it in, in baseball, the Cardinals? mean, see, the thing is we have AAA, AA, we can move them down there. We don't need to move them to the Oakland athletics to get playtime. could just drop them down to AAA, you know? ⁓ now football doesn't necessarily have that. Right. Cause like college football is the feeding system for the NFL. Now you have the UFL, right. Or XFL. Right. Yeah. But.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah. True.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Yeah, they got the new... what's it called? Well, yeah, XFL or OU, changed it, that's right.

Duds: I think it's just because soccer has so many levels and leagues and so much interest in people playing, you know. What do those players make over there anyway? Like England, they have all kinds of teams.

Bright: Well, I think that's a lot of it. Sure. Yeah. Right. So if you're playing in, so like when Wrexham Wrexham started, they were in the lowest professional league, probably it's called the national league, right? That'd be equivalent to single a or less for baseball. Right. Right. They, they were probably making 40 to $60,000 a year, but just enough to like, be a real job. And some of them had, some of them had other gigs, right?

Nilla: Like an average. Mm-mmkay. Not much. Okay. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, so, yeah.

Duds: Seems like you might have to. ⁓

Bright: You know, then you, then you get in, then you get into the, championship two, you're probably making between 60 and 80, ⁓ championship, one or what I'm trying to think of what they call it. ⁓ Lee it's just league two league one. You're making a lot. You're probably making over six figures then championship league. You're, making good money. That'd be like AAA baseball here, but you know, you're probably, you're probably at that point making. hundreds of thousands or million dollars a year as a player.

Nilla: I was gonna say AAA baseball, I don't know. I mean, think they're probably only making like maybe a hundred thousand. I don't know. I mean, maybe.

Bright: Yeah, yeah, no, it's right. Yeah, it's right. It's not the same dollar amount, but it's the equivalent.

Duds: Yeah, unless it's a player that's got a contract that would put down in AAA or something.

Nilla: ⁓ sure, yeah, yeah. I guess it's a way of, it's kind of like a way of scouting. And also they're getting not exposure, also experience.

Bright: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then once you get to the Premier League, you know. Well, then that's part of the reason that you loan players and you know, and then you always have the champ, the chance to get promoted. So that's the thing. If the team gets promoted that you finished in the top of league two, well, now you're in league one. If you finished in the top of league one, now you're in the champions league. Well, then they have to pay you more or you get a bonus or your showcase. You're playing against higher talent. You do well there. You're going to start getting recruited by other teams.

Nilla: Right. Mm-hmm. Right, exactly.

Duds: You get paid. There you go.

Nilla: Right. See, that makes sense though, because it's like an incentive to play better, to, you know, right.

Bright: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. We do bonuses here, but it's, it's nothing compared to the contracts that you're getting. Right. So, all right. What else? Did you have anything else, duds?

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Okay, last thing I wanted, it wasn't anything else I learned, but I wanted to get your take on, you've got two younger brothers, right? They both played soccer. So who was the best? Like what's your comparison between you and your brothers? I want to hear this.

Bright: Yeah. Yep.

Nilla: You

Bright: Well, I mean naturally

Duds: Do you guys ⁓ excel at different areas of the game or like different sports?

Bright: Yes. Yes. So I was primarily a central midfielder and that was the position I like to play. I also like to play upfront and my brothers both played defense. ⁓ they, they both probably had better high school careers. ⁓ you know, and I, I don't know why that was, ⁓ cause cause I had a great high school club career. So when I played for my, my club teams, I did very well. ⁓ you know, got recruited to play college, but for whatever on my high school team, I, you know, I wasn't selected. Whereas my brothers, Jonathan and Kevin, they, know, they were starters varsity, ⁓ junior year, which, you know, it took me up to senior year. And even still, I wasn't always a starter, you know, so that was frustrating for me. And I have my own.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Reasons for that and it it really comes down to Leasner who was our God rest his soul He was my fresh. Yeah, he passed away. Yeah. Yeah, he was he was a jerk. He was our freshman coach Yeah, and he was a terrible terrible coach. Yeah English teacher Yeah, ⁓ and he didn't understand like what his job was his job was to get the freshman players better

Nilla: Coach? No.

Duds: ⁓ yeah, that's right. He did pass away, didn't he? Forgot I heard about that.

Nilla: Was it the coach? Okay.

Duds: Is the English teacher too remember? ⁓

Nilla: He didn't

Bright: And he, you know, he didn't give everybody equal playing time. He, you know, like you don't do that freshman year. That's not your job. ⁓ I'm sure he did, you know. ⁓ and then coach Gavain, I wasn't a big fan of coach Gavain either. Doc Simpson was, ⁓ was good for sure. And he was a big cheerleader of mine. So JV, Southmore teams, ⁓ I was very successful under him. So they had good high school careers. Yeah. ⁓

Duds: I think he hated freshmen.

Nilla: Yeah, everybody does, but you know.

Duds: ⁓ he's lost. I love Doc Simpson, man. was a great, great teacher too.

Bright: Kevin and I both played for a little while in college. ⁓ nothing, nothing crazy, but you know, we both got recruited to play, to play college ball. played D two. I think he played D three. ⁓ so I don't know. We all had our different areas of strengths. ⁓ naturally I think I was the best over overall player. Yes. I'm the oldest. Yeah. Oldest. ⁓ also the biggest of all my brothers.

Duds: Well, sure. The oldest, right?

Nilla: Overall, right exactly.

Bright: Right. Um, no, well, not anymore, baby. Not anymore. that working out. It's, it's paying off. 196, 196, the muscles starting to build in.

Nilla: Yeah, Well, that's now. ⁓

Duds: That's all that beer drinking. ⁓ You under 200 now? Look at you go.

Nilla: Did you guys ever play together on a team ever?

Bright: ⁓ like in, in grade school, ⁓ Kevin, my, youngest bro or my middle brother, he would play up sometimes with me or occasionally his team would play up and I would play down. Right. ⁓ you know, if his team was playing up, cause they had to be the right age group for me to play. So we would have some crossover. Yeah. ⁓ John, John, not so much. Yes.

Nilla: Yeah, okay. ⁓ God.

Duds: ⁓ so he must have been better then.

Nilla: Okay, yeah, Yeah, gotcha. Maybe sometimes it's fun, that's what you do. That's your job.

Duds: beating up on your little brothers.

Bright: Yeah, now John's going to go with me to the game on Saturday. So he doesn't know this yet, but I'm going to say like, hey, part of me bringing you the game is that you got to come on the pod, talk about your experience. And the same is true when I bring you guys.

Duds: He's on the pot, huh? There you go. How, yeah, that's fine. How much older are you than your brothers?

Nilla: year and a half and then a three and a two.

Bright: ⁓ we're all two years apart. So I'm two years older than, ⁓ Kev give or take, and then four years older to the day for John. We have the same birth, same birthday, four years apart.

Duds: Same day. Well, that's pretty screwed up. I didn't know that.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: You ha I mean how you did not know that for as long as we've been friends, you should a hundred percent know that it's around Halloween. Remember? Yes. Dia de los Muertos. Yes. And I know yours. I'm pretty sure, um, it is June 26th. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And I think you're

Duds: I am horrible with birthdays, I have no idea when your birthday is.

Nilla: I forgot and then as soon you said it, was like, yeah, November 2nd.

Duds: Okay. I'll forget that. I'll forget that by next year. Do you? They're very good. I don't have Facebook. I mean, I've lost all that stuff.

Bright: No, forget, I think, I think your dad's is June 21st. Yeah. See if I know your dad's birthday.

Nilla: It's real.

Duds: That's right.

Nilla: Wow, that's pretty crazy.

Bright: Yeah. Cause I, I remember these things. Uh, yeah. Nilla I know, uh, Nathan, know Bobcat man. I think I know April 11th or 12th. He's right. mean, I'm close enough. Uh, Jay bird. know, uh, June he's like June seven.

Duds: pretty weird. Why do you know that?

Nilla: It's got an identity memory. ⁓ Thank you. Hey, I don't know anybody's.

Duds: Well that's good Greg, I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Nilla: I mean seriously, like I know like my wife's, my sister's, um, Brightman's actually now because it's, I don't know.

Bright: You

Duds: The important ones. You don't need to know your friend's birthdays.

Bright: July 10th and 11th for Jane and your sisters.

Nilla: Eugh. Bright Bins is always kind of because it's like literally if you say like right after like maybe sometimes the Halloween party possibly even like that day who knows you know.

Bright: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jason is on Halloween, so he's easy. Yeah, fall sticks is the June 20th. 20th. June 20th.

Nilla: I swear.

Duds: Oh, you want to hear something crazy? I'm glad you said that. I ran into him. Yeah. Uh, Greg. Yeah. After the, there was a grandparents, grandparents. Uh, what was it? That was a grandparents day. We had a mass went over to the school after that and ran into Greg. He was over there with his mom and dad and he's working, uh, for, know, who he's working for.

Nilla: I don't know. Jason. Great. church.

Bright: At school.

Nilla: He didn't go to the fish fry at the trivia.

Duds: Brian.

Nilla: He told me, but I don't know really who they are. Well, I think unless you change.

Duds: Adam and Justin Morath.

Bright: No, do inhale?

Nilla: ⁓ Well, not hail specifically, but well, auto body, I guess.

Duds: Yeah. Doing, uh, I think debtless, uh, think it's, yeah, debtless, uh, or painless debt removal. Yeah. It's over there right off, um, 30 and, uh, Limberg or Watson. Maybe it's off Watson.

Bright: What? He's- Yeah. Painless dent removal. Yeah.

Nilla: What's... What's the company called?

Bright: ⁓ so I don't really know, but they, they always used to brag about how much money they made. They would travel the world, you know, like Justin and then his partner, ⁓ who, ⁓ I don't want to go all into this. They, they would, they would follow storms. They'd go to Australia. They do like months. ⁓ yeah. Like travel the world doing painless dent removal, making, making seven figures a year, supposedly.

Nilla: I didn't know.

Duds: ⁓ yeah?

Nilla: Bye. when you said that I wasn't sure what you were saying, his partner. That's crazy.

Duds: Where is it?

Nilla: Well, yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know that's who he worked for,

Duds: Where is it? It's right down here somewhere. Because of the B.

Bright: I didn't know that either. Okay.

Duds: Yeah, he told me that. was like, no kidding. Yeah. That is funny. It's right down here past, it's where Gravois and ⁓ Sappington are. ⁓

Nilla: He told me the name of the company but...

Bright: Small World.

Nilla: He didn't know them though back in high school, did he? I mean, I don't think so. Yeah.

Bright: No, uh-uh, no, no, no, no. Nope. This is just happenstance. Of course now Briggs, Briggs oughta.

Duds: No, didn't. Briggs, here it is. Briggs Auto Body. Yeah, it's on Gravoy right past Zappington.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Good for him. He always had his own shop for a while with his dad, you know

Nilla: So why is the name? Why is the name Briggs?

Duds: I don't know.

Nilla: Or did they buy it or something or? Okay, didn't change the name or something. Okay. ⁓

Duds: I think they might have bought it. Yeah. And they do the STL dent, dent removal company.

Bright: Right. A fall sick when he still owned his shop, he did my car, but it wasn't paintless dent removal. ⁓ he re he replaced the whole hood and you know, yeah. Did it, did it good too.

Nilla: I replace it? Okay. Yeah, ⁓ yeah.

Duds: Brand new pieces, get a whole new car.

Bright: Money in the pocket, all that stuff.

Nilla: You still do it on the side? Drop the link? No, just kidding. Uh... What are we talking about? No. No.

Bright: I gotta be, I gotta be careful here because insurance fraud. right.

Duds: Insurance fraud.

Bright: What? No, no, I don't know what you're talking about here. ⁓ good for him. ⁓ yeah, anyhow, so yeah. So if you want to go check out a city SC posse, you know, I will, ⁓ I will launch a couple of new episodes, ⁓ either tomorrow or Saturday before the game, but it's coming down. ⁓ and you can get all. I do have a couple of other things. ⁓

Nilla: What else you got? You got anything else in the loo?

Bright: Let's see, and we got to go quick here. And this is just a quick rundown. Cardinals, $29, all you can eat, Coca-Cola, all you can drink. Have you heard about this? Every game. Now it's dynamic pricing. So not every game is $29, but tickets starting as low as $29, all you can eat, all you can drink, Big Mac land, excluding alcohol. So hot dogs, bratwurst, nachos, potato chips, French fries, soda.

Nilla: Well, yeah. Hmm, okay. So real. Hmm. Interesting.

Bright: Ice cream. 29 bucks. It's made national news. National news. Yeah. Like that's, that's what that's yes. That includes your ticket. Yeah. A little bit of that. think, I think that has something to do with it. Right. ⁓ the Cardinals extended Ali Marble, which is a little annoying because like we're not great, you know,

Duds: That's pretty cheap. That's pretty cheap. is a reeks of desperation to get people to go to the game.

Nilla: That's with your ticket. Okay. I mean, sure. Hmm. Yeah. Isn't he I heard from somebody? Oh, yeah.

Duds: I thought we were going to get Puhols and Molina as managers. I mean, what's going on here?

Bright: Well, I think people are kind of waiting for that. Like when, when, why? I know.

Nilla: How long in a way, yeah. I think they were saying though that marble.

Duds: Well, let's do it for crying out loud. They wait until we have a decent team form to manage, you think?

Nilla: Well, yeah, I don't know anymore. Marble has been like the third longest possible coach, like in the position.

Duds: They probably know the season's gonna be lost anyway. Ever?

Bright: No, really? So he started in, he started in 2022. Yeah. No, no, no. Um, he was the youngest manager in all of baseball when he was hired. You know, so I

Nilla: Maybe he's in the Cardinals.

Duds: Yeah, there's no way.

Nilla: Maybe he was with the Cardinals specifically, but then again, I don't know. For sure. Yeah, definitely that. Which, who was he before?

Duds: No, that's... I think it was the youngest, yeah. Who was he? think he, I think he was in the minor league system. I don't know much.

Bright: I don't even know.

Nilla: I mean, where did come from? Like, how did he get this job? What was his?

Bright: Yeah. Yeah.

Nilla: But nobody ever heard of him hardly, mean, nobody, you know.

Bright: He's young. The players seem to like them. And I think they know we're going through a rebuild. So we're not going to be able to attract any top tier managers, right? Yeah. And it's possible Molina and pools are like, Hey, like we got to wait till the Cardinals are good. Then we'll come in. Right. We're not going to come in and be losing managers. Right. ⁓ what

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Well, they probably didn't want to waste a bunch of money on them, too.

Nilla: Well...

Duds: Put a team together first.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: But wouldn't you want to go in and say, hey, I'm a good manager. I can turn this team around or find some help to put the team together.

Bright: Right. Right. Yeah. I still don't think we should have ever gotten rid of, ⁓ Mike Matheny. go back to Mike Matheny and I'm like, we were good. We won playoff game. Like, why did we get rid of him? You know, and then Schilt everybody wondered, but then they heard that there was some front office stuff and I think fine. But, but even Mike Matheny, I'm like, he was a, he was a good dude, good manager, Cardinals catcher, you know? All right. The blues.

Nilla: Yeah, why did they? Yeah. Mm. Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, He was in the running. They won! ⁓

Bright: The blues have won three out of their last four games coming out of the Olympic break. ⁓ we're still, huh?

Duds: Guess which one they lost.

Nilla: Guess which one they lost.

Duds: Guess which one they lost.

Bright: The one you went to. Yeah. I know. What a bummer. What a bummer. And it was interesting. So we played Jack Hughes, the New Jersey Devils that night. And then the next night we played Quinn Hughes.

Duds: Yeah, Davis is his first one. Got a hockey puck from him. ⁓ yeah, Minnesota.

Bright: And here's, here's the craziest thing. So we played Saturday night. It was the 4pm game. So it was the, kids kids game or whatever, which makes sense. Caroline and I were watching Saturday night live that night. Who was on the freaking Hughes brothers, Jack Hughes. I'm like, wait a minute. He was just in St. Louis. He didn't leave St. Louis at seven o'clock at least probably later than that. And that's eight o'clock New York time.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: ⁓ Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Nope.

Nilla: Yeah, I think I heard him say something about it during the game how like they hope it doesn't go into overtime because they needed to get out of there.

Duds: I think it was nine o'clock, wasn't it? was nine o'clock New York time. was on at 10.

Bright: Well then... Right. Well, it starts at 1130.

Duds: Or 10, it was 10 o'clock here, so was 11 o'clock in New York. Yeah. But it's, isn't it live? Yeah, it's live.

Bright: when it aired. Yeah, but still he's got to make it's a two hour flight. Yeah, but still.

Nilla: Well, maybe if they go fast enough they could go back like in time or No, seriously, did you hear that? I saw some story and these guys were flying like the past... Yeah, they traveled, I forget where it was, from... ⁓

Duds: But so if you left at seven.

Bright: Hahaha

Duds: Do go fast enough? you go bike with that? 88 miles an hour, think, right? You go 88 miles an hour and you go back in time.

Nilla: Oh, I was like, what? was like, I don't think so. But yes, from back to the future.

Duds: Gotta get your flux capacitor.

Bright: We don't want to go down this rabbit hole because one, of course, you got the date thing. So if you leave at a certain time, you could skip a whole day.

Nilla: Well they went like faster than the speed of light I guess or whatever. Now that would be insane. That's not possible. No. How fast did they go and how far did they go is the question. No, look this up.

Bright: Well, nobody went faster than the speed of light. Who are you talking about? you talking about science fiction?

Duds: What happens if you get in an airplane and you start flying on the earth at the same speed as the earth is rotating, does time stop?

Bright: No, but all right. So here's the thing though. I fly a lot. I am actually younger than you guys by time standards, not necessarily younger by when we were born, but I've experienced less time than you have because I fly so often. Time slows down. This is true. This is physics. The faster you are traveling, time slows down.

Nilla: Well, it doesn't actually stop, Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. On the Earth. Mm-hmm.

Duds: You think that.

Bright: So if you're in an airplane flying 500, 600 miles an hour, time for me is slower than it is for you on the earth.

Duds: You think that you've flown enough to actually change your age.

Nilla: No. Well, yeah, by like, you know, 10 minutes or something.

Bright: No, by 0.1, not even 10 minutes by like milliseconds, maybe milliseconds, maybe I don't know to do the math, but yeah, but that is true. You know, so it is like a form of time travel. It is, it's proven. It is proven. So, you know, GPS satellites, they have to correct for time dilation. ⁓ if they didn't correct.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: of years younger. Prove it.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: In a given day, our GPS satellites would be off by miles because they're flying so far up above the orbit of the Earth at a faster speed. Yes.

Nilla: Up above this guy so... Like a diamond sky.

Duds: Hmm. Low speed orbit. Low Earth orbit. Yeah.

Bright: ⁓ are you, are you familiar with this? Do I, do I need to do a whole deep dive on time dilation and.

Nilla: I don't know, just watched that movie I told you. What was it? What was that movie?

Duds: Well, I know about time dilation. You approach the speed of light and time comes to a stop.

Bright: Right. So if you are going the speed of light, time does not exist. So for a beam of light that leaves the sun, takes it, it takes, right. A photon. takes eight minutes for that beam of light to from the sun to reach the earth. But when that beam of light hits your body, if that beam of light were conscious, that's it. It left the sun and hit your earth or hit your body.

Duds: Right. If you're a photon.

Bright: It's over. It never experienced time.

Duds: Hmm.

Bright: Think about that. It's crazy. It's true. So if you, if you travel the speed of light, if you're going, now you can't do this because it would break all physics to go the speed of light because you have mass. Photons don't have mass, but because you do, you could never actually travel the speed of light according to modern day physics. But right. But if you did, if you wanted to go,

Duds: That doesn't make any sense.

Nilla: Yeah, right. No, tear your body apart.

Duds: So let's try to apply our physics to something that doesn't have mass.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: You could go anywhere in the universe. If you could travel the speed of light, you could go anywhere in the universe. would be instant for you. Now the problem is it would not be instant for everybody else on earth. So by the time you got there, billions of years would pass. We would all be long dead. The earth would probably be gone. But for you, was in. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So if you could travel even 99.9 % the speed of light, that's why time travel is a hundred percent.

Duds: instantaneously.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: be billions of years.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: still be making this podcast.

Bright: fact. It's just, it's one way you can't go into the past, but you could go into the future. So if you just traveled far enough out at the speed of light and then came back. Yeah, we, yeah, that might not actually be possible.

Duds: Hmm.

Nilla: Boy, are you

Duds: So really, we want to figure out how to go to the pass though. According to who.

Nilla: Like that, I just watched that movie, The Flash, I think it was, the newer one. And in the end, guess, basically, yeah, in the end, I guess somebody died, right? So he's like, well, if we just run fast enough, basically, they'll go back in time and they can redo it to make sure this person didn't die. But then they did it and it still happened. And then they did it again, again, again, and again. And basically it was like destroying like everything. mean, basically. And so they had to accept the inevitable.

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: flash.

Bright: Space-time continuum.

Duds: Space-time continuum and the butterfly effect. Remember that movie? That was pretty good. Yeah.

Bright: Well, so. It was a great movie, but it loved the butterfly effect. The original Superman with Christopher Reeve. He turned it changes the, yeah, the earth, the speed to go backwards to save Lois Lane. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah, flying around the world.

Nilla: Mmm. Rotation?

Duds: If you change the rotation of the earth, the time goes backwards. Remember all the trees came back from like the avalanche and stuff?

Nilla: Well in the movie though, the Flash, when they were doing this, was like, well technically, if they were running fast enough, wouldn't they actually have to run backwards? You know what I mean?

Bright: It's getting too confusing for me, man.

Nilla: Right, you have to run backwards. But they were running forwards. I'm like, well then they're just going into the future, not going back.

Duds: to go back in time.

Bright: Go back in time. ⁓ Nope. No, clearly not. Yup. Yup. All right. Let's move right along. We got about four minutes to go. ⁓ I got a couple of other quick hits, ⁓ St. I know, right? St. Louis blues. ⁓ Perranco got traded and then he was, he has a fold, no trade clause. And he's like, F that I'm not going anywhere. He wants to stay right here in St. Louis. He's dating an EMOs.

Duds: It's not a very factual show, is it?

Nilla: Well, it was a movie, but no. Based on Marvel Super Hero. Oof. Where's that come from? Four minutes.

Duds: Let's stop wasting so much time on that stuff. You're not loaning me out to anybody.

Bright: girl supposedly. Yeah. No loans. Avril Lavigne. Yeah, it's Dayton Avril Lavigne.

Nilla: I thought you were gonna say an emo girl at first. was like what? Emos. Emos. Alright.

Duds: Hahaha!

Bright: Alright, DTF St. Louis? Well, no, like from the Emose family.

Duds: Just like some random emails, girl, said.

Nilla: She makes pizzas, you know, yeah. She is an emo. They own like the Toaster Raviolis or something, okay?

Bright: Like she's an heir to the, an heir to the EMOs throne. Yes. Right. Right. And he's like, I'm not moving to, he got traded a Buffalo. He's like, I'm not going to Buffalo. No, no, No. And he has a fold no trade clause. So he doesn't have to go anywhere. So even though we traded them, he's like screwed that. No wrong sport. All right. Did it, did anybody watch DTF St. Louis? Yep. We did.

Duds: Pick her up in the drive through. Gotcha. She's an email.

Nilla: ⁓ wow.

Duds: ⁓ yeah. Nobody wants to go there? Come on.

Nilla: Maybe they just lease them maybe or something, you know? No.

Duds: would never work.

Nilla: You did.

Bright: It was good. They got some stuff wrong with St. Louis. ⁓ well, well, it's, it's, it's, it's a fictional show, but like, so they, no, no, the town, the, the town that it takes place in outside of St. Louis is fictional. I don't even remember the name of it. Fine. And then it's the St. Louis, like sheriff's department. I'm like, well, that doesn't exist. You know, it's like the count. Yeah. Yeah. But now.

Duds: Of course. See, I'm not going to watch that now.

Nilla: I don't know what's in there.

Duds: No shit.

Nilla: Thanks.

Duds: I'm the county sheriff.

Bright: Not that investigates murders. Right? We talked about, didn't we talk about this in a previous episode that they basically doing like bail and moving.

Nilla: Well, yeah, I know.

Duds: Probably not. Yeah. They try to paint St. Louis as like a one stoplight town.

Bright: Right. Yeah. No. ⁓ but it was interesting. It held my interest. The first episode, Jason Bateman, we know is great. It's also got the guy from, ⁓ stranger things and, ⁓ spoiler alert, he ends up dead. So yeah. Yeah.

Nilla: Thank Isn't he? Yeah, I gonna say the first preview I saw he was like, I think dead, but I guess they're gonna have a lot of flashbacks or whatever.

Bright: Yeah. I mean, we know we, we, think we knew that the whole thing at DTF, it's an app, a hookup app in St. Louis. Something happens. He ends up dead. We're trying to figure out what happens. ⁓ and right now they're trying to, they're trying to pin it on Jason Bateman. only one episode in I've, know, but go check it out. DTF St. Louis HBO. All right.

Nilla: Right. Yeah.

Duds: Hmm Thanks for spoiling it.

Nilla: That's in the preview in the trailer.

Duds: I gotta say, I'm not like totally cool with the name of it. Now you gotta try to explain to your kids what that means. Come on.

Nilla: No, you don't talk about it, man don't

Bright: Well, you're not gonna- don't watch it with your kids!

Duds: Well, you don't think they're going to hear about the name of the show?

Nilla: I mean, I don't know, maybe.

Bright: Well, I don't know, depends on how old they are, I guess.

Duds: They're going to hear about it and then you get to explain it to them. Thanks Jason.

Nilla: Jason.

Bright: Though part of the allure I think is that is the name DTF st. Louis people are like, all right. All right, I can get behind that

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: All right, we're moving along fast now because we're at 90 minutes, just about. What do we got here? Rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Nilla: Who is it? Ring there?

Bright: Well, let's take a look. got a, I got it pulled up here. I don't know if this is our rock and roll hall of fame class of 2026, 25 years after their first commercial recording. It's a public fan vote. Um, the hall was founded in 1983 and it usually inducts between five and seven performers a year, but now it's no longer just rock and roll. got hip hop, pop, so on and so forth. Right.

Duds: Chuck Berry.

Nilla: Just kidding. Yeah.

Duds: Why? Why'd they do that? They screwed it up.

Bright: So I think that's part of the question. Now, I thought I had who was in the rock and roll, but for whatever reason that's.

Nilla: Hmm. Good question. think it's because of all that cross, you know, what do they call that? You know, with a, not, not, but you know, like, so all these new artists are doing like country too, or something like that, or, you know, like, it's like a weird rap, yeah, rap country and they're mixing them. So it's like, well, what are they, you know?

Duds: Elvis, cross-pallinating. like cross-genre.

Bright: Right.

Duds: I don't know what they are. They can't put a label on me.

Bright: That's true. That's true. Well, here's, here's who we got the black crows. All right. Good band rock and roll hall of fame. don't know. Jeff, Jeff Buckley. Don't even know who he is.

Nilla: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Jeff Buckley.

Bright: No. All right. Mariah Carey. She has one Christmas song.

Nilla: Wow. That's it. ⁓

Duds: Rock and roll.

Bright: That's it. Phil Collins. Okay. All right. You know, he's, he's, he's got some stuff, you know, right? Yeah. Genesis his own stuff. Yeah. Right. All right. Melissa Etheridge. How many songs does she have?

Duds: All right. You want to call that rock and roll Genesis? Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. Does anyone have a about rock and roll? Well, I don't know, but why are these people just now getting inducted into it though? It's like this should have been like 20 years ago. ⁓ after.

Duds: Nah, probably made two series.

Bright: No. Uh-uh. All right. Well, it's got to be 25 years after the recording. Yeah. Some of them may have already been nominated, but didn't make it. So now they're being nominated again. Lauren Hill.

Nilla: Yeah, right. True, true. ⁓ I think she had a big following actually

Duds: So I'm just trying to find the bottom of the barrel now. It's like scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Bright: Yes. Billy Idol. Okay. That's rock and roll. I wouldn't say he's got like this huge, you know, all the, he's got a great couple of songs and he was a true rock and roller. ⁓ Okay. In excess, not my cup of tea.

Nilla: Alright, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. White wedding. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I don't even know what that is. What genre is that?

Bright: Right. ⁓ it's like a pop pop rock, early pop rock, I guess. I don't know. Iron Maiden?

Duds: Rock and roll now.

Nilla: No. Mm-hmm.

Duds: ⁓ that's kind of hard rock, it?

Bright: Yeah. All right. This is the third time they've been nominated. Yeah. Yeah. British, British heavy metal. All right. Joy division. I don't even know. Uh-uh. New edition. They, what do they got? Like one song. All right. Here's, this is what I, yeah. Yeah. These are the nominees.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Never heard of them.

Nilla: Yeah

Duds: So these were all the nominees, just your name and their what? So who won?

Nilla: The speed of sound is what I meant earlier when I said the speed of light, the speed of sound. I found the article finally. Yes, well when I said it I was like, no that's not right.

Bright: be the sound okay ⁓

Duds: quite a bit different.

Bright: ⁓ Alright, this one I think is a lock. Oasis. They're a lock.

Duds: Okay. You think they're going to Can they have more than one winner?

Bright: They're by far the best. Yeah, that's like five to seven. So, but they're by far the best out of this list. ⁓

Duds: Okay. I think, I mean, Phil Collins and Iron Maiden.

Bright: Phil Collins. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. But Oasis is the best band out of this list. They get the most radio songs, the biggest following.

Duds: Oasis, yeah.

Nilla: Well, of course. Yeah, that's true.

Duds: I guess if you just think of like, who would you say is like worthy of saying you're in the hall of fame for music? It's just in general. Mariah Carey will probably win.

Bright: Right. Well, it's the it's the fans. Pink pink.

Duds: Nah.

Nilla: Yeah, shit. Couple good. No doubt. Now there's one stuff on there. Pink.

Bright: All right. Sayed don't even know who this is. Shakira. All right. She's got my hips. Don't lie. I mean, come on. Luther van draws. Who the hell is that?

Nilla: One. Yeah.

Duds: a lot of nominees.

Nilla: Old school like, what is it?

Duds: Why do they have so many nominees?

Bright: I don't know. And then the last one is the Wu-Tang Clan.

Duds: They'll be in. They gotta make it.

Nilla: The racial draft.

Bright: or shizzle my drizzle. That's what I was just going to say. The racial draft when the Chinese coalition takes the whole Wu Tang. It's the best. That is the best. One of the best skits of all time. No. Oh, it's so funny. It's so funny. All right. Um,

Nilla: You can't even get away with that anymore now.

Duds: Take a whoo tag! ⁓ Take a Wu-Tang Clan! The racial draft. That was so funny.

Bright: Couple of other things that were just mentions Ozzie Smith, fake news. All right. Correction from last week. I don't think he has cancer. Like I, I fell for it. Damn social media. You know, I was like, yeah, yeah. A couple of other things. ⁓ we're not going to do any kind of deep dive into this, but Christie Noam got fired today. For our department of Homeland security. I think this is.

Nilla: Yeah. Right. Good. ⁓

Duds: I've been telling everybody's got cancer. Great.

Nilla: Thank

Duds: You gotcha. Say you gotcha. What for?

Nilla: ⁓ I saw something there.

Bright: This is all for the partial shutdown of the government. Nobody said it yet, but I'm pretty sure Trump is like, I'll fire Kristi Noem, open the fucking government.

Duds: They don't want her? Is that what it was? Why? What's their problem?

Bright: That's what I think it's about. The Democrats don't want her exactly. That well, those two people in Minnesota were killed under her watch. You know? So yeah. Although Jeffrey's, Jeffrey's already came out and said like, that's not enough. We're not going to reopen the government. ⁓ I don't know, but I think this is more or less Trump saying like, all right, I'll get rid of Christie gnome. Let's let's get over this. And it's not getting any press coverage. One, it's only a partial government shutdown.

Duds: Well, so that's why I wouldn't have fired her for that.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: And two, there's all the Iran stuff. So nobody's paying attention to that. Yes. Supposedly they're saying that she did a $200 million commercial ad campaign that wasn't approved by the president. And then she said that it was approved by the president, ⁓ under oath. And Trump was pissed about that because he was either. Yeah. Now, whether or not he actually approved of it or I don't know. And then.

Duds: Was she doing her job?

Nilla: Hmm. Hmm. Hmm, yeah.

Duds: Well, that's a reason to get fired. That's probably it.

Nilla: Right, right.

Bright: Governor waltz was on Capitol Hill yesterday talking about the Somali fraud. So I didn't want to leave that out because I know we've covered that extensively on this podcast. I'll just say it did not go very well for him. If you do want to hop on X, you can find all of the, all of the, you know, shorts. There were a couple of questions of like, can you define a woman? No, if you can't define a woman, how can you define fraud? And then the other, the other big one was.

Nilla: Hmm?

Bright: How much did Minnesota spend on autism in 2017? I wasn't governor in 2017. And then it was like, okay, well, they spent $1 million on autism in 2017. How much do they spend in 2024? You were governor in 2024. Sorry, Senator. I don't know. Governor Waltz, did you prepare at all for this hearing? Yes, Senator. I prepared. I don't think you did. If you did, you'd know that you spent

Nilla: you

Bright: 324 million dollars on autism in 2024. So in 2017, they went from seven, one million in 2017 to 324 million in 2024. That sounds like fraud.

Nilla: Wow. Mm. Man.

Duds: That's a lot more autism.

Nilla: They better have cured autism for that much money. Man.

Bright: Exactly. Exactly. Yup. Probably. Yeah, probably. So there's more than that. He got, he got roasted pretty bad at it, you know, and he is just a, there was, there was one Senator that was like, ⁓ he said, Hey, governor Waltz, let me, let me ask you this in whatever year president Obama, he needed somebody to run with him as vice president.

Duds: You could give everybody with autism a million dollars.

Nilla: ⁓ well, in that area. Wow. deserved.

Bright: That wasn't as smart as him that wouldn't overshadow president Obama. picked president Biden or vice president Biden at the time, vice president Biden needed to pick somebody that was dumber than him. He picked Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris had to pick somebody dumber than her. Where does that leave you governor? He said that right to him, right to him. And governor waltz laughed. He laughed.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah

Duds: Yeah

Nilla: smarter than a Somalian. ⁓

Duds: He said that? He said that to him? That's pretty funny. How could you not?

Nilla: Wow. And what else can you do at that point? ⁓ man. It's too late. Too late.

Bright: which, well, I, you stand up for yourself, man. Have some balls. Of course he is. And that was just, the proof was in the pudding at that point. He didn't know what to say.

Duds: Yeah, but he is an idiot, I mean...

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Wasn't prepared for that. ⁓ Nothing. We already know that.

Duds: pretty funny. It's a pretty good one.

Bright: Nope. Nope.

Duds: So what's going to happen?

Bright: nothing and it's all being overshadowed because of the war in Iran

Duds: If they have proof, if they have proof of the fraud, then prosecute these people or or let us overthrow this government.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. All right, yeah, to the fullest extent.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. the government of Minnesota. All right, what else do you guys have? I always feel bad because I bogart the agenda.

Nilla: some. At least. We're usually fine with it, I You are the producer.

Duds: That's typical. That's typical.

Bright: You

Duds: producer, director, show owner, add a few of your show notes.

Bright: Can I add that to my resume producer podcast producer co-host social media manager?

Nilla: Why not? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, wouldn't it be to be a host?

Bright: Well no, I'm a co-host. You guys, you guys are, we're all co-hosts, we're co-hosts. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't think I'm the lead host.

Nilla: I thought we would be co-hosts. ⁓ we all are? ⁓ okay. ⁓

Duds: The lead host. doesn't, he doesn't want to, you know, separate it. I mean, we're all equals here. We're all equals.

Bright: No, I'm, you could, I could say you could call me the producer fine, but we're all the hosts. We're all co-hosts. So if you want to call me the producer, fine and dandy, but, lead researcher.

Nilla: Director. ⁓

Duds: to the producer.

Nilla: To himself.

Duds: Assistant producer or assistant to the producer?

Bright: Uh, official beer drinker. So I'm breaking this one out. I don't think I've had this on the podcast yet. It's my absence of light by four hands brewing peanut butter, uh, chocolate milk stout. It's a great, great winter beer. Uh, it's an ale with natural favor pairs well with chocolate cake. It's 7.1 % alcohol by value.

Nilla: Ooh, absence of light.

Duds: Interesting. Thanks. Always drinking your beer with chocolate cake.

Nilla: Beer with cake. Interesting.

Bright: ⁓ Well, if you do, if you are going to have beer with chocolate cake, this is the one.

Duds: Yeah, what does a bush light pair with? Bush light pairs with a hot dog.

Nilla: Right. But not if you have vanilla cake though. No.

Duds: No, no, that'd be a Mick Ultra.

Bright: That's right. No, no, no. God forbid red velvet. What do you have with red velvet cake?

Nilla: Maybe a white Russian? I don't know, not a beer, but...

Bright: A white Russian, huh?

Duds: There you go.

Bright: Strawberry milk

Duds: I used to drink the shit out of that.

Bright: No, I've never had strawberry milk in my life. Never tried it. Yeah. No, my kids will not drink chocolate milk. It's insane. It's insane to me. They will not drink chocolate milk. Catalina will only have milk or water. Yes, I've tried. They won't, they won't do it.

Nilla: Really?

Duds: ⁓ the Hershey's strawberry liquid stuff. Yeah, man. I love that.

Nilla: What? That's crazy.

Duds: Really? Do you have like what Hershey's syrup? See, you I didn't really even care for Hershey's syrup growing up. I always had the Nesquik, the powdered stuff. Yeah. had both, huh?

Nilla: Amen.

Bright: That's quick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Nilla: Really? We had both, but now what if you had chocolate milk in something that they couldn't see? Like what color it was, they didn't know what it was? And what if they drank it, what would they do? Freak out?

Bright: No, they don't. They won't do it. Kat will, she refuses. She'll taste it and be like, Nope, I don't like this. No, it's crazy. Frankie likes juice, but none of them, not good. They don't drink soda. None of that. But Frankie on ⁓ like, if we go to a restaurant, he'll have a lemonade or on a very rare occasion, he'll get a Capri sun Catalina milk or water. That's it.

Nilla: That's what I'm saying. What if they don't know what it is? It's inside of like a... What is this? Is this chocolate? ⁓ You Hmm?

Duds: That's what I needed.

Bright: And she's seven, seven. So like never had soda in her life.

Duds: Yeah, we try to only, well, my kids have had soda, but we try to keep them more to the milk and water or the healthier sodas. get the sodas with the cane sugar in it now instead of the high fruit dose corn syrup, you know, and try to keep them on the seltzers, you know, those types of carbonated water type drinks flavored.

Bright: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we talked about that a couple episodes ago.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I don't think my niece, ⁓ you know, had McDonald's until she was 10. I was like, what? That's insanity. That's like depriving. Yeah, yeah.

Bright: Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I, yeah, I've taken my kids to McDonald's. They're not, they don't like love it though. Like when we were kids.

Duds: Dude, I bet my kids have had McDonald's like three or four times ever. Yeah, just not very much.

Bright: Really? Yeah. Yeah. I grew up on McDonald's. could say like, like four, four to six times a year. I would say my kids have McDonald's. It's not a lot. No, it's definitely not. It's when we're busy, you know, ⁓ now Catalina, like she loves after soccer, we go to Wally's and she loves their pretzels and their hot dogs loves them, you know, and we always get a candy bar.

Nilla: Really? That's crazy, because I feel like we grew up on McDonald's.

Duds: I could go the rest of my life without eating it.

Nilla: You Alright, nothing crazy. Right, yeah exactly. Yeah, going to soccer practice. Carmelo's are pretty good, but... They're pretty good.

Bright: She likes Carmelo's. Carmelo's. Yeah. They're the best. They are. They're very good. I got a feastable last time I was there from Mr. Mr. Beast Feast. I've never had one before. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to go for it. Yeah, it was good. I liked it. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Yeah. Well, it's Mr. Beast. And I had just finished his, um, his show on Amazon that I talked about, you know, uh, which was good.

Duds: ⁓ okay, Andy Barr. They're pretty good. Yeah, I've tried one those too. They're not bad. Yeah. think they actually use decent ingredients in those too. They're pretty good.

Nilla: I've never heard of it. Mm. Mm-hmm.

Bright: And I was like, all right, gonna try this.

Nilla: Check it out.

Duds: Do like it? Which one did you get?

Bright: I got the peanut butter, peanut butter. What I want to get, and I haven't tried it yet, is one of those first form energy drinks.

Duds: Not bad.

Nilla: Hmm. Hmm. ⁓ you're able?

Duds: ⁓ the energy ones. Yeah, I've not had that yet. Well, the protein or the energy. Okay. ⁓ yeah. I've had all their, I've had all their energy drinks, but they have like another protein energy or something that they're coming out with here soon too.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. You haven't had, I was, thought maybe you had, but energy. It's like 200 milligrams of caffeine. I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Okay. All right. I'll look. I'll look. Yeah. I had a, I had a good, good protein day. had a half pound of Turkey for lunch. 60 grams of protein salmon. had salmon for dinner. Another 40 ounces of protein. ⁓ air fried it. It's just too easy. Yeah. It was excellent. ⁓ and then I had a protein protein shake post workout.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, it's brand new I think.

Duds: Yeah, the energies are good.

Nilla: There. Well.

Duds: Was that fresh salmon? What did you do, grill it or something? Air Fryer.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: But that salmon's delicious.

Bright: Uh, some cottage cheese right before I started drinking. So, you know, hit my a hundred and 160 grams of protein today. So.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: What's your other macros? How much carbs are you taking in?

Bright: Oh, uh, 20 or less 10, five. I hardly ever have carbs. Like maybe in some sauces, I made a homemade barbecue sauce today to go with my Turkey. And it was zero sugar ketchup, Dijon mustard, little bit of Worcestershire and was that it? And then I put some barbecue seasoning on it. I think that was everything.

Duds: That's pretty good. Here's some trivia for you. Do know what Worcestershire sauce is? You don't know. It's anchovy sauce. It's made out of anchovies. Isn't that crazy? Look at that. Yeah, salty fish. Salty fish juice.

Bright: No. No.

Nilla: No. Good question.

Bright: Huh? Interesting. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Nilla: What, for real? So it's basically like salt.

Bright: Well, that's the thing. Lots of sodium. Yeah. Lots of sodium. So you got to watch out for that. So I drink enough water. think I drank between 90 and 120 ounces of water a day. So, well, to an extent. Yeah. Yeah. To an extent, but no, I understand. If I'm drinking, if I'm drinking, I'll do, I bought pickle juice, just pickle juice from the grocery store. Did you know you can buy that? Yes. Yeah. You know, so I'll do a shot of pickle juice now. ⁓

Nilla: Hmph.

Duds: No dude, sodium is good for you. Salt's good for you. No, no, you need salt. You gotta have salt to live.

Nilla: Yeah. Well, right, how much? I mean...

Duds: They sell it without the pickles? Why?

Bright: for the exact reason that I'm using it. It's a electrolyte boost after like a night of drinking. you know, if I, yeah, but, yeah, but this is, this is better for you. LMNT. Yeah, I have, I've heard there's, there's a couple of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Liquid IV. I've heard of that one. Yeah. Or you could just have pickle juice.

Duds: You can buy electrolyte packets.

Nilla: Mm. Well, sure.

Duds: Look at Elementy. Have you ever heard of that, Elementy? It's salt. It's not it's not sugary. It's not like ⁓ liquid IV. It's completely different.

Nilla: Right.

Duds: Yeah, you want to look at LMNC, it's high sodium, sodium potassium.

Nilla: Or you could just go... Or, or, you know, what's funny though, is that people are selling pickle juice when people like freaking, ⁓ was the firehouse subs or something like that. Probably dumps out, you know, gallons of it a day.

Duds: Just buy pickles.

Bright: Sure, yep, yeah, yep.

Duds: That's probably what they're doing. They're selling it on the side just by itself. I just don't know why you wouldn't buy pickles and just use some of the juice. Then you get both the benefits of the pickles too.

Nilla: I should.

Bright: Well, no. So I've done that. But the problem is, is you pour out too much juice and you have too many pickles left and now they're not in the juice anymore. ⁓ yeah. At some point you got to the pickles. So I just, I bought like a half gallon jug of pickle juice. It's great. And it's cheap. Look at, yeah, you all gotta do it. You do one shot. You do one shot, two ounces of pickle juice in the morning after a night of

Duds: Well, you got to eat the pickles.

Nilla: At some point, at some point.

Duds: You're not eating enough pickles. ⁓ they taste like pickle juice.

Nilla: Yeah, Tastes like pickles. Yeah.

Bright: I'll say like moderate drinking. If you have one or two beers, you don't need it. And you should, and the water should be enough. But if you're not going back six or seven beers, like you might have just, just enough of a hangover, right? Then, then just knock back some pickle juice and start drinking water. You'll be good to go.

Nilla: Yeah. Sure.

Duds: You're gonna chug the whole bottle.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah.

Duds: What if you do that before you go to bed?

Bright: Well, you can also do that. Yes, has both. Both are benefits.

Nilla: Hmm. Hmm. So you do beforehand? Is that what saying? Don't do it before. Okay. Okay. Oh, all right. Huh, interesting. Hmm. All night long.

Bright: You don't do it before you drink either do it right before bed or right when you wake up or both, depending on how bad it is. All night long. think that's a good, ⁓ that's a good spot to end the podcast. think I think it's drink your pickle juice and go check out, ⁓ not only this podcast, like, subscribe, check out our website. I've redesigned it. NFNP pod.com. I've got the new S have you seen it?

Duds: or all night long. Suck it on pickle juice. Ooh, a redesign. No.

Bright: The new city SC posse is a featured. Should I, should I give you a quick ⁓ overview real quick? Should I pull it up? All right.

Nilla: No.

Duds: Sure, pull it up. Yeah, let's see it.

Nilla: Do you have the wheel on there?

Bright: ⁓ the wheel on the pod on the website. No, no.

Duds: Spin the wheel yourself.

Nilla: On the website, yeah, you should have it on there. ⁓

Duds: Take suggestions for the wheel.

Nilla: Ooh, that and or at least they can see the options beforehand. Gonna entice them.

Bright: I do, of course.

Duds: ⁓ there you go.

Bright: I would love to, yeah, I'd love to do that. All right.

Duds: I would like to see some comments on any of your posts.

Bright: Ooh, I don't know. Well, this is, this is the website. Welcome to the notorious Friday night posse. NFNP is still the feature, right? Got our photo on there and, but redesigned. That's, that's us. Yeah. Who's who? I know. I think this is me for sure. This one, the one with the hat. Yeah. They're all me. I think actually. ⁓ I don't know. ⁓

Nilla: Hahaha

Duds: Is that our photo? Is that supposed to be us? Who is who?

Nilla: I was like, who is that? Well, I think you know who I am. The one with the hat. Yeah. So therefore.

Duds: So I'm this clean shaven guy in the middle?

Nilla: Yeah, I mean, where'd that come from?

Bright: You without the beard, right? Yeah, you without the beard. I don't know. All right. So then if you go to episodes here, you got our comedy and news commentary. That's pretty much all of our episodes. But now you can click on city SC posse and it's just our city SC posse podcast, which is great. You can of course do season one season two. ⁓ you can see all episodes. You can check out our blog.

Nilla: That was never, I mean...

Duds: I think you need to fix that.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Bright: Which is great. got all of our blogs. Look at this. We made top podcasts in St. Louis, 2026. I don't know if you knew that. ⁓ that's good. Yeah. Let's go check this out. This was a, an AI thing. It was like, just make your own blog post. It'll help you score better on Google. Call yourself some of the best podcasts in St. Louis, 2026. I.

Duds: Meh.

Nilla: No.

Duds: That's hilarious.

Nilla: There you go.

Duds: No, I just lied to everybody. It's fine.

Nilla: That's great. ⁓

Bright: I know it's great. ⁓ and then you got all of our blogs. got our city blogs on here. Yeah. NFNP pod productions, NFNP city S C posse. That's all on here. You can sign up for a newsletter. You can contact us. ⁓ you can write a review. We do have a couple of reviews. I don't know if you guys knew this, which is great. All five stars so far, which is great.

Duds: Like man, this is all complete bullshit.

Nilla: Prove it.

Duds: You

Nilla: directly don't give it on my cell phone. No. What you're only showing the ones that we've, you know, five star.

Duds: No.

Bright: No, these are the ones that have come through. Look, this one came through on Facebook.

Duds: You're bullshitting. I don't believe you. I don't believe it. ⁓

Nilla: How much did you pay that guy? Well, I don't know. I heard about that one person who had to clean the house once before. I don't know.

Bright: How much? I am not paying. You think I got money to pay people? You can.

Duds: This is AI.

Bright: You can follow us on all of our socials. Now this is what's pretty cool. If you go to city SC posse, I created this page. I designed this, this page, and we've got our episodes, our blog. if I did, I know it's, it's crazy, right here. No, but this is what's cool. If you want to check out our episodes, just click this and it takes you to just our episodes. Right. Just the city.

Duds: You did all this?

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: You

Nilla: Hmm?

Bright: City SC posse episodes. If you want to check out just our blog. Boom. This is just the city blog. So it automatically filters out NFNP, which is great. ⁓ and then I've got our primary episode featured right on the page on the homepage. So if you want to get caught up and then I've created this section, this is new now of the latest city SC posse episodes. So you can check those out.

Nilla: Mmm.

Bright: And they are in order one, two, three. Yeah. And then you got all of our recent recent episodes, NFNP pod and city SC. And then of course you can listen, you can subscribe. You can check, check out our blog. can browse by category, all that good stuff. You got our blog posts down here, our reviews.

Duds: Well, they better be.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. This is 26 episodes, is that including the STLSC or is that?

Bright: Um, yeah, it should be all of our episodes. So that would include the three city SC. Now, what I, what I did notice, I got to check this out. Season two says eight episodes, but this is, I'm pretty sure episode 10, uh, for season two. So I, got to go look into that. I'm like, are we missing one? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. And then, yeah, here's all of our episodes. So maybe I'm missing one. January 2nd, 9, 16, 23rd.

Nilla: I was just curious. Hmm. Interesting. Missing one or something? Yeah, right. Or two. ⁓ okay.

Bright: 30th 15th 20th ⁓ 27.

Duds: This is like a nice historical archive here.

Bright: i know it's great

Nilla: Mm-hmm. I like the pictures. Yeah.

Bright: Yeah. The pictures are great. And then I just went with the regular one for city SC, but you know, you can tell what the heck we're talking about in all of these, you know? So you know what? This is a, this is a great website and I'll give props to, this. If you put in NFN P pod.com, you bet it is. ⁓ but I use a company called pod page. ⁓ so I will definitely give them full credit. They just import everything you have from your RSS feed on your podcast.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah.

Duds: It's the top website on Google search, as I saw.

Nilla: You Yeah. Hmm?

Bright: ⁓ they make it nice and easy to design. There's some customization. can do some things. You can customize this and your colors. ⁓ but if you don't want to mess with it, it, pulls it all right in from the RSS feed and it's, it's pretty cool. Yeah. It's pretty cool. So if you want to, you can read up on some things. I changed some, ⁓ some verbiage, if you will, on NFNP pod productions, NFNP, our podcasts, and then

Nilla: Yeah, looks good. Hmm. Right. Hmm. Yeah, that's good.

Duds: It's pretty impressive.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: Yeah, we want to make sure that's grammatically correct.

Bright: That's exactly it. You're right. We're, we're a network. We're a podcast network. Now it's not just this podcast. Now we're two podcasts and I still got one in the bank. You know, if, ⁓ I got the whole business plan ready to go for it. It's just whether or not, ⁓ we're ready to launch it. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. City SC will, it'll allow for some, some cross promotion, which is my hope, you know,

Nilla: Well, it's true. Yep,

Duds: Well, you don't want to expand too fast. mean, let's, let's rein it back. You don't want to get over your skis. Yeah.

Nilla: Mmm. Some expansion. ⁓

Bright: Although soccer fans tend to be a little bit more liberal. don't know how much they'll mesh with our ideology, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Nilla: It's true, it's true.

Duds: Well, it's good to have a disagreement here every once in a while. You like doing that stuff? It seems pretty fun.

Nilla: Well, mean, yeah. Hm, we'll see.

Bright: What the website stuff? Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool to have it, you know, it's, you know, Hey, 10 years from now, this is a record for the kids. You know, this is whether it's whether, if, ⁓ right. See how cool your dad was, you know, that's right. That's right. It's good stuff. You know what? And if it ends up just being for fun,

Duds: Yeah, the podcast.

Nilla: Yeah, sure.

Duds: Hey, go back and watch these old podcasts on. ⁓

Nilla: It would be funny. Yeah.

Duds: What are you guys even talking about? I just go on tangents all night long.

Nilla: You

Bright: Which is probably what it is. Then that's all it is. Somebody, somebody did call me out on social media about my blog for city SC podcast. said, needs a little bit more AI crap. And I responded back. said, Hey, I'm not trying to be a jerk. I said, right. I know I tried. I'm not trying to be a journalist over here. That's number one. It's all in good fun. That's number two.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah

Nilla: You

Duds: I got as much AI crap in there as I can get. I can't fit any more in.

Nilla: Okay. Yeah. Hmm?

Bright: Number three is if you're not using AI, I don't know what you're doing. And number four is I said, go check out the podcast. There's no way I in the podcast. It's real life stuff. And you know what? I tell the blog what to write. It's not like, I mean, I type in what I want it to say.

Nilla: you true. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Duds: What's the AI going to do without you putting in the prompts? Yeah, you're still controlling the AI.

Bright: Well, right, exactly. Now, you know what else I do? I upload our transcript so it has the full access to our actual transcript, word for word. I upload my notes and my outline. I don't know, let's hope not. Let's hope it never comes to that. I want the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God.

Nilla: Thank you. Thank

Duds: That's inadmissible in court,

Nilla: If it has to be, I don't know.

Duds: I don't know if we want the whole transcripts going up on there.

Nilla: You You

Duds: You can't handle the truth.

Bright: You're goddamn right I did! Jack Nicholson is the best.

Nilla: That's what they say. He was.

Duds: All right. Got off the rails.

Bright: All right. Adios. 10 30 Caroline's going to kill me. I was, sold her. I'd be up by 10. It's not, it ain't happening. No, no. ⁓ well. All right, guys. Hey, check out, check out the posse podcast. ⁓ we'll launch two and then I'll, I'll post this tomorrow and yeah. Well, both posse the city SC posse, of course. And then the notorious posse. Well, that's, that's our brand now is the posse. So

Nilla: You Ooh, I thought it was 1015, but still. All right.

Duds: Alright. See ya. Ossie podcast.

Nilla: I'll see you podcast.

Duds: I'm out of posse.

Nilla: That's right.

Bright: Join the posse, follow the posse, like and subscribe if you like the posse.

Duds: Say Posse.

Bright: Say posse one more time. Don't screw it up. All right.

Duds: you