How Many “Coincidences” Before It’s Not a Coincidence Anymore?

Bright: We're back. We're back after a two week hiatus. ⁓ no, well, one week hiatus. mean, it's been two weeks, I guess, but we took one week off. So yes. And we, we have our beer. So I, know, I went to the fridge cause I was like, I need, I need a full beer. Yeah. He's gone quickly. He was like, I'll get a beer. There you go. He's got the bush light. I've got bush heavy. Duds has got, ⁓

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: There goes Nello.

Nilla: That's right.

Bright: Bush light. And then I grabbed an Octo haze for my second one, which, know, it's like 8%. But I don't, I don't have much in the fridge. I gotta, I gotta make a run. Although I've been drinking for the most part, I've been drinking yingling flights. ⁓ and I drank myself out of those. So yeah, yeah, they're not bad. They're, know, on the lower carbon. I think we've talked about it before, but Hey, for just a regular weeknight or something, you're having a couple of beers might as well might as well do the flights.

Nilla: Bye. Mmm. Hmm. Yeah, that was not bad. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Duds: ⁓ yeah, that's a little maker's mark at a wedding last weekend.

Bright: So yeah, yeah, I, plan on hitting it hard. This ⁓ maker's mark. So you had a wedding last weekend and

Nilla: ⁓ Makers Month, yeah.

Duds: Yeah, that was there. Yep. I had a cousin last weekend and then this weekend's my brother's. Yep.

Nilla: And this weekend.

Bright: Honestly, every time I say like, Hey, let's hang out. have a wedding every weekend. It's got to get exhausting. Yeah. If it's not, it's not a wedding. It's it's a trivia night or something.

Duds: There's always something. Life.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: There is something going on typically. We have free weekends, but then nobody wants to do anything. You know, when you have a free weekend, sometimes you're like, I don't know if I want to fill that with anything. You know, when you get those free weekends, I just want to not do anything sometimes.

Nilla: Busy. Yeah, right, you just want the weekend off. Yeah.

Bright: I, I get that. But when you have kids, you know, like not doing anything actually is like, no, I mean, that's true, but you're still busy because you're busy entertaining them. So sometimes when like we hang out, it's almost like a little bit of a break for me, whether I bring the kids or I don't, you know, sometimes, you know, bring the kids to a restaurant and you give them your iPad. And then at least I got to hang out and talk to you guys, you know,

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: You don't have those very often.

Nilla: Right.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Well yeah. Yeah, right.

Bright: So I don't know, but yeah, I plan on hitting it hard this weekend. I'm going to the soccer game. It's the first one and like, I don't know how, at least a month, although I didn't go to the last home game. My brother had it. So maybe like six weeks or something. So I'm starting to have withdrawals.

Nilla: Yeah. Well.

Duds: So what's their record now? They weren't doing too good, were they?

Nilla: Hmm.

Bright: Yeah, not good. ⁓ we, got our ass handed to us last week. and we still only have one win on the season. We're in second to last place and this weekend we play, the first place team. Yeah. Not, not looking good. No, no, no, no. But, but Kevin, I will be, we'll be, ⁓ recording probably tomorrow or Saturday morning.

Nilla: We're in.

Duds: Ooh.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Good luck.

Duds: Probably not gonna, not gonna do too good.

Nilla: Not gonna do it.

Duds: How is the atmosphere at the games?

Bright: Well, I mean, the atmosphere when you go is fun. I still enjoy going to the games. I'm just hoping. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so they had a, they had a U S open cup game a couple of weeks ago. was out of town. ⁓ and not too many people for that midweek game. It's not like real MLS action, but the MLS games are sold out. It's still a completely sold out crowd. So, you know, that's not an issue yet.

Duds: Still a lot of people going. I mean, there's still a lot of people there.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Okay.

Bright: ⁓ but you know, people are starting to get restless. You know, this is now the third year in a row that we've been pretty shitty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, Kevin, I will do the full breakdown of last week's game. We'll preview this week's game before, ⁓ before I head downtown, I'll get that posted. So if anybody wants some, some insights on that, you can either check out the blog or check out our pod. I know duds, you've been a loyal listener. You're probably a, ⁓ city SC pro now.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah.

Duds: The natives are getting restless.

Nilla: Yeah. you

Duds: ⁓ yeah, you know, I try to listen when I can. anyway, pleasant surprises. I was tracking the Cardinals for a while there. We were doing pretty good actually for for what was expected, you know.

Bright: Yeah.

Nilla: Number one fan. Mm-hmm. Yeah. This early in the season? Yeah.

Bright: Yeah. I mean, we, we're still doing pretty good. I mean, we lost last night. I don't know. Um, I think they're playing tonight. I don't know what the note off tonight and then playing tomorrow. I think then after that, we're on a run of like 17 straight games. Um, so, uh, a couple, a couple of off days here, but Hey, you're right. Better than we were expecting to be. Yeah. I think we're like sent second in the central and you know, maybe, maybe they end up doing something.

Duds: Yeah.

Nilla: No, Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Well, when I shared that graphic for a while, there was, five NL teams that were leading all baseball. And I think the Cardinals were one of them.

Bright: Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's still early. We haven't played a lot of our central division foes just yet. That's when it, starts to get sticky, but it's a long season. There's that too, you know? So just because you have a hot start. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: It's a long season.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Yep.

Duds: Yep, you'll have your ups and downs and doesn't mean anything.

Bright: That's the thing about baseball. mean, you can't, you can't get lucky, you know, like maybe in football sometimes it's only 17 games. You have squeak out a couple of lucky wins and that could just make you a playoff team or not, but sure. Yeah.

Duds: Well, think it's all about the playoffs though, right? Yeah. It's all about getting to the playoffs in almost any sport, right?

Bright: Well, that's, true in any sport, right? But like in baseball, you know, if you're a good team or not.

Nilla: Sure.

Duds: What sport do you think whittles it down to the best team? You think that baseball does it the best with that long schedule?

Bright: I feel like they used to, I don't think that's the case anymore with all these wild card teams and stuff like that. mean, back in the day, you know, they only.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: Do think that's taken away from the need for that?

Bright: Well, I mean, you gotta-

Nilla: Well, can see you can get lucky there, you know?

Bright: Sure. One game playoffs. Anybody can win that. mean, that's a crap shoot, you know? So, ⁓ I think the, the best actually is probably like the NCAA tournament. ⁓ you know, there's, there's definitely some luck involved there. ⁓ I look about like the tennis tournaments, like Wimbledon or something like the best player usually wins, right? Like it's hard to work your way all the way to the final and something like that. Yeah.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Duds: Right.

Nilla: Yeah, well...

Duds: Right. That's kind of how March Madness too. I mean, you look at the guys that are playing at the end and it's all like one and two seeds, you know, it all kind of shakes out at the end. You hardly ever have anybody that's way deeper than that.

Nilla: Yeah, right.

Bright: Right. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I, ⁓ I remember back in college, I won, ⁓ my bracket ology or whatever that, know, one of my bracket challenge one time and I had picked Syracuse and Kansas in the finals. And I was the only one in my whole dorm that picked that final. It was a two and a three seed. ⁓ so I walked away at you, Nilla, you might even remember this. came home. ⁓ you know, for Easter break or whatever. I had like $300 in ones because it was like 200 bucks to enter. So it was just a, a, right, right. No. Yeah. I just came back with this huge stack of ones, but haven't done too great since then. I don't pay attention as much.

Nilla: Sounds like something you would think that I might remember. I don't remember a whole bunch, but... Okay Yeah.

Bright: All right. Well, what do you think? Should we get into the main topic?

Duds: You got a schedule for tonight? Roll us through the schedule.

Bright: Well, I do have a schedule for tonight. We, we can see where it goes. I thought we would just do kind of a, you know, ⁓ around the horn of topics or weekly recap of what's in the news. Cause there's so much going on. You know, we have weeks sometimes where it's dead other weeks where it's crazy, but I wanted to start where we left off last week because our two weeks ago, we did the episode on all the missing scientists. And like three days later, it's gone viral.

Nilla: schedule. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: The FBI is investigating like all of sudden. I'm like, wait a minute. Did NFNP pod? Yeah. Did the posse blow that up? I don't know.

Duds: kind of blew up.

Nilla: Mmm. And now there's another new person? Is this Eleven?

Bright: Well, yeah, I, yeah, I think we're up, we're up to 11 official cases at this point. And then I saw another poster too, that said 12 or 13 now, whether or not those are actually connected yet. haven't, I haven't done, who knows if any of them are connected. That's a, that's a good point.

Duds: think there was two more, right? No, there was like 14.

Nilla: 12? Well, yeah, official. Well, if any of them are connected yet, know. Yeah, exactly. But the thing is too, is I was kind of surprised that it goes back further than I thought, like a year or two ago at least, right?

Duds: Well, I think they're actually finding other people that are missing and ending up dead that are like, hey, wait a second. These people are actually connected too. So people that previously thought unconnected are now actually being tied.

Bright: Yeah, actually the... Right. Yeah.

Nilla: Mm. Mm-hmm.

Bright: Right. Yeah. I think that's the thing.

Nilla: Mmm. Right.

Bright: ⁓ eventually. Yeah. That's the thing. A pattern starts to develop, you know, and, there's some key things and we hit on this last week, you know, these walk away disappearances, people just out for a walk. Don't take their wallets, their IDs, their phones, their keys, nothing. There's multiple of those, you know? Yeah. ⁓ just vanished without a trace. The one gal that was on Monica Reza was on a hike with her friends. Gone.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. That is super weird. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, right.

Duds: Yeah, that one was really weird.

Bright: Like how does that happen? Yeah. Two people that were just randomly shot, just shot dead randomly. Like, yeah, more or less like that's also so, you know, was there, I don't even remember wizard. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah, by random people, mean, yeah. Or the one guy found drowned. There was a guy who was found drowned in like a small lake or some pond somewhere. I don't know.

Bright: Yeah, that's the thing. It all starts to get a little fishy like, cause what are the odds of that stuff happening? Like there is some stats on that. The odds of like, of drowning or right. Yeah.

Duds: To this many people, to this many people, I would think all being connected, has to be like crazy odds that that would ever actually happen.

Nilla: Thank you. of stature, you know?

Bright: Yes. Yes. That's where it gets tricky. So it is that the, the initial case, um, goes back to 2022 as of right now. Right. So, but then there's a lot of them within the end of last year and the beginning of this year. And I think that's when people really started to pick up on it. So, um, you know, and we, and again, we, talked about this a lot last week or, know, in our last episode, so I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but just as a quick reminder,

Nilla: Yeah. Okay, too. All right. Mm-hmm.

Bright: Agencies that are involved, you know, NASA, department of energy, Los Alamos, and now you've got the FBI investigating the house oversight committee investigating, you know, Trump has brought it up. You know, he said that this is a social media mystery and is now a top priority for federal probe. said it's quote unquote, pretty serious stuff and that there's a, could be a sinister connection at play here.

Nilla: Mmm, sinister.

Duds: Could be.

Bright: So, you know, think sinister and that's what's kind of crazy is this started out as an AI, you know, kind of social media conspiracy. Then it got picked up by like the Will Kane show and a couple of other shows. And then all of a sudden it's on Trump's desk and you know, now it's all over the news.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. yeah, it was probably abstain.

Bright: You can't tie everything back to the Epstein file.

Duds: Maybe the Clintons. Maybe the Clintons.

Nilla: I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. ⁓

Bright: Right. Yeah, it could be the Clintons, definitely.

Duds: All these people were at the Clintons' wedding.

Nilla: Hahaha

Bright: All right. ⁓ well, so there's some other weird things about this now too. ⁓ and that leads into my next like sub, sub topic topic. Yeah. Sub topic, if you will. And that's the UFO aspect of all of this, you know, so now there's starting to be some UFO tie in, ⁓ because

Nilla: Stop it. Mm-hmm. Well, NASA, mean, well, not that they are UFOs specifically, but...

Bright: Yeah. Well, at first there was this, there's this missing general and, then the, the, one of the women's was working, ladies, women were working on anti-gravity technology. Right. So people are starting to link that maybe a lot of these scientists were secretly. Yeah. It was secretly involved with, yeah, reverse engineering, alien tech, and you know, that kind of a thing.

Nilla: Yeah, exactly.

Duds: big awesome tech.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah.

Duds: You think it was like.

Nilla: What was that one article somebody shared?

Duds: Is that what you think it is? that what you think it is? What do you think it is? I mean, it does. So are you leaning, I was going to say, are you leaning more towards that aspect where it was them having some kind of technology and maybe wanting to be suppressed or is it, are they being killed by other like governments? Right. And it's espionage, you know.

Bright: I'm starting to question it. ⁓ here, go ahead.

Nilla: World One. Ushirdarkle

Bright: other governments. Yeah, yeah. Could be both.

Nilla: Well, sweet production.

Duds: Could be both, but I don't know. That'd be odd.

Nilla: Well, could be. It's possible. That'd be kind of odd, but yeah. So somebody shared an article I thought about the other guy who was doing with the UFOs too, right? The newest guy.

Duds: What's more highly likely though?

Bright: Yeah. So that was McCasland, I think. And he was linked to advanced propulsion and aerospace research. And I guess he.

Duds: You listen to some of those videos though. It's like, he was kind of crazy or is that like real?

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Bright: Yeah. Well, and that's the same thing with the lady, the lady that was working on the anti-gravity thing, supposedly, like she didn't sound right. ⁓ and this got brought up on Joe Rogan the other day. And he was like, Hey, you know, if, if you're constantly dealing with this stuff and you're always worried that somebody's out to get you because of what you're working on, like you're probably getting drunk and high and stuff like that too.

Nilla: me.

Duds: ⁓ how crazy is this guy?

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Bright: And so when they're recording these videos, maybe they're not in the right state of mind, or maybe they're just kind of nuts. So, I mean, you remember the movie independence day, the, the, the main guy, yeah, the main guy was the main scientist was a crazy dude, know, ⁓ Brent Spiner was his name in real life.

Nilla: Mind? Yeah, possibly. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Right? What if they're just talking, you know? Yeah.

Nilla: Well, okay, ⁓ the other article I was gonna say that, ⁓ yeah, somebody shared about where they built some sort of ⁓ thing around something they had found and they think that could have, I mean, what was that?

Bright: Yeah. So I was going to, I was going to bring that up. Yeah. So some, ⁓ some like congressmen brought this up or something. And he said that he, he just got declassified information or something, or just sat in on some hearing that we had recovered a UAP, a UFO. It was in a different country. He didn't say where, and that it was so big. Yeah. So big.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Mm. Right. But under US control, right?

Nilla: Mm-hmm. I yeah.

Bright: That we had to build the building around it. And yes, it's under us control, but we couldn't move it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So who knows? And we don't know what it is. Right. Now you could go again, go back to the X files movie.

Nilla: Yeah, they're not moving it. Right. Interesting.

Duds: And we don't know what it is.

Nilla: You happy?

Duds: I mean, if it was on the ground, was it a UAP?

Nilla: Well, not anymore, not right then.

Bright: Well, it was Ariel.

Duds: Did they find it on the ground or did they shoot it down and say, so how do they know it ever flew?

Nilla: Hmm

Bright: We don't know. We don't know. didn't say, yeah, go, go back to the X-Files movie, fight the future. And the alien spaceship is in the ice of Antarctica. And that's exactly what we do. We basically build our facility on top of it. And then, you know, let's cigarette smoke a man and stuff.

Nilla: by the terminology that they reversed. ⁓ yeah, yeah. wasn't a couple years ago, thought I remember something that there were some weird pictures and it was up, think, in our nation. It looked like something had crash landed on, you know, there like you could see like a skid mark kind of area. It's like, what was that?

Bright: There's starting to be a whole lot of conspiracies about an Erica. Yeah. Well, yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's the portal to inner earth and all of that stuff. Right. ⁓ but the reason that people are starting to bring up Antarctica is because I guess they've never had, ⁓ like reliable wifi or internet there. Right. And now all of a sudden these people that are there on expedition expeditions have access to starling.

Duds: ⁓ the other side of the ice wall.

Nilla: Right. Did you see that ice wall? Dragons.

Duds: where the dragons come from.

Nilla: Mmm Mm. Yeah.

Bright: And so they're able to start streaming and now they're saying that like you're not allowed to stream or do anything in Antarctica. And people are like, why? ⁓ there's all kinds of stuff. You know, I I don't know.

Nilla: Why? Yeah. Hmm. Interesting.

Duds: because it keeps the conspiracy going. If we let you start streaming from Antarctica, then people are going to know that you're not on the other side of the ice wall. It'll blow the whole thing up. You got to keep the flat earthers. You got to still give them a reason to think it's not flat.

Nilla: Hehehehe, mm-hmm.

Bright: Yeah, Yep, yep, yep.

Nilla: that the earth is not flat. ⁓

Bright: Yes, yes. Well, Artemis two, ⁓ they, they sent some, you know, pretty cool photos, certainly, but they have a photo of Antarctica. You know, it's just this sheet of ice. looks exactly like, ⁓ you know, it, mean, it's big. a, it's a continent. Probably bigger than Australia, I guess.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Yeah.

Duds: How big is it? Just like the map?

Nilla: Yeah. How big is it? Yeah. Probably.

Duds: I don't know, you never really look at a map from underside, under the Antarctica side.

Bright: Type that in a... Well, that's the thing you got to see the globe and it's, hard to figure it out. Cause when you see it on a map, it really doesn't do it justice. Yeah. It's round. The globe is round or Antarctica is round. Antarctica is round, you know, more or less, more or less. Yeah. Look that up real quick. ⁓ type it in, if you get the chance. Well, let's see if it's see what, how, how big it is. Is it the same size as Australia? Is it bigger than Australia? And then I'll, I'll go over a couple of things here. ⁓

Nilla: Is it because it's round? Yeah

Duds: How do you know that?

Nilla: The surface area. Yeah, surface area.

Duds: Okay.

Bright: Tim Burchett is the Republican Congressman from Tennessee that's bringing up all this stuff. And so he's talking about this high ranking. Yeah. Do you, do you know him? I'm not sure that I know him off the top of my head.

Duds: Yeah, I like him. ⁓ I've seen him on a couple of these, you know, the things that are going on. He wants people to, you know, be held accountable for what they're doing.

Bright: Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. He wants, yeah, for sure. And the big thing is he's saying that they've, Nilla is raising his hand. Very well done, Nilla. All right, go ahead. Do we have an answer on Antarctica?

Nilla: It says it is roughly twice the size of Australia.

Bright: There you go, perfect. Look at that. Excellent research. That is pretty big. Well, it's the same. What's under the ice? Land.

Nilla: It's pretty big. Well, I mean, what's under the land?

Duds: Is that land or ice?

Nilla: Yeah right, exactly that's what I meant actually. I think I said what's under the land.

Bright: Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You did. But now you could go back, you can go back to Graham Hancock, you know, and he has all this evidence of, ⁓ you know, how we discovered Antarctica way before, ⁓ you know, we supposedly discovered it and that people used to be going there.

Nilla: Whoa, yeah, we discovered North America before they think ⁓ that we did. mean, like, come on, cursive Oak Island, I'll tell ya.

Bright: Sure. Right. Of course. I know. Clearly. We got to do a whole episode on the curse of Oak Island.

Duds: Man, I'm having a weird like, ⁓ I think I had a dream that we were trying to like mine to the center of the, ⁓ like through the crust. Did we talk about that last time? On this? That must've been a dream I was having. Cause it came to me just like a clear as day about trying to mine through the crust of the earth. I don't know why that was.

Nilla: We should.

Bright: I don't think so.

Nilla: Is there a bit corn there?

Bright: You If you could, if you could create a tunnel from point a in the earth, the point being in the earth, you know, all the way around, would take exactly 90 minutes to get from point a to point B anywhere on earth. How cool is that? Yeah.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: I don't follow. Like, are you doing?

Nilla: Well, not anywhere, because the hole can't be anywhere. has to be in one spot.

Bright: doesn't, well, right wherever the hole is, but the, you could have the hole from here, from St. Louis to LA 90 minutes, St. Louis to Sydney, 90 minutes, St. Louis to Antarctica, 90 minutes. However you dig that hole, it would take you 45 minutes of free fall through the tunnel down to the, the center of the earth. Yep. Uh-huh. And then you'd go 45 minutes back the other way. And you'd, you would.

Nilla: I mean, yes.

Duds: Oh, you're talking about with gravity? Is that what you're talking about? Okay.

Nilla: Or would you go the other way? Automatically? Hmm.

Bright: Automatically. Pretty cool. And you'd accelerate, accelerate, accelerate, you'd slow down and then you'd accelerate, accelerate, accelerate, then you'd slow down again.

Duds: This is obviously theoretical since nobody's ever tried that.

Bright: Well, you can't do it, but I think the math is there.

Nilla: Well, hold on. So eventually though, if you would keep going back and forth, back and forth, you know, would you just end up right in the middle of the earth?

Bright: No, you'd always go back and forth. You could never end up in the middle of the earth. Somebody would have to pull you out though. When you get to the end, you know, you'd fall right back down. So somebody would have to be there to like, you'd have to have a way to.

Duds: I think that was like a Simpsons episode, wasn't it?

Nilla: The end, yeah.

Duds: Be right there and grab your hand.

Nilla: Yeah, you have to figure out like, you know, how fast would you come flying out in order to see really where would you stop, you know, level with the ground, 100 feet below.

Bright: No, you'd come out, you'd come out here. That's what's crazy. You'd accelerate all the way. And then when you get to the end of the hole, you'd have a second of like where you're, you're zero gravity. Right. So you actually slow down as you make your way back to the surface. Yeah.

Nilla: Right. Yeah. Right. But where would you actually, where would that be? Would that be right at the surface exactly?

Bright: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to speculate on that. Now you can do, you can do the same thing with air travel. So think about that anywhere in the world you can get to in about 90 minutes, but we just have to develop a plane that essentially goes up and comes back down. It would take you 90 minutes anywhere in the world. You go up to a certain spot in space and then come back down at the right angle. It'd be exactly 90 minutes anywhere in the world here to Chicago, 90 minutes here to Sydney, 90 minutes.

Nilla: Okay, all right.

Bright: Imagine if we could perfect that.

Duds: So where did you read that?

Nilla: That's kind of bullshit. Takes you 90 minutes to get to Chicago, but you can go to Sydney in the same amount of time. That's stupid. Like I would go to Sydney just to go to Chicago, you know.

Duds: Who would do that?

Bright: I know we can get to Chicago now and 45, the old fashioned way. Yeah, yeah, I know. But pretty cool. Anyhow, anyhow, that's all, that's all UAP stuff. We're not there yet. You know, we need to reverse engineer that, that technology from, ⁓ from the aliens. So anyhow, so this high ranking general has just been hidden from Congress. And so they don't know if he's.

Nilla: Yeah, no.

Bright: actually missing if he's dead or if they basically just took them and were like, like hit them away. Like, no, you can't be called by Congress. You're not going to be subpoenaed. You're, you're off doing other things. Right.

Nilla: Well, you mean like Biden?

Bright: Yeah. Like Biden, like Biden was like it was right. Yeah. Never came out for any, any, ⁓ speeches never came out for any, ⁓ what's the, what's the word I'm thinking of interviews. Yeah. Press conferences. So, yeah. So yeah, Burchard has claimed in several interviews now that specific high ranking military officials often referred to as UFO generals.

Nilla: Yeah, like what? just gone like what happened? Ice cream? I mean, no. Nope. Mm-hmm. So this general will be demo. Never.

Duds: He never had to answer for anything he did.

Bright: were scheduled to provide testimony or information, but have since been made unavailable or moved to a position where they can no longer be reached.

Nilla: Made. Sounds like death, at most.

Bright: They have been digitally or professionally erased, he claims.

Nilla: Well.

Bright: Yeah, I know. I know. So, and now you, again, you piggyback. I know. It's like the net. You remember the net with Sandra Bullock? That's a good callback, right?

Duds: professionally erased. The eraser. Remember Eraser with Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Nilla: The Eraser.

Bright: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ what was the other one? ⁓ what was the Will Smith one? It's maybe a little bit different. Do you remember that one? ⁓ yeah. Enemy of state, enemy of the state. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All three of those. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of his early ones, but all three of those are good.

Nilla: Okay. ⁓ yeah, Enemy of the State or I don't know. Is that it? That a good movie.

Duds: ⁓ yeah, that was a good one. That was like from back in high school. That one's kind of scary because you can see how the government would really be like that.

Nilla: Oh, for sure. And that was like 20 years ago, at least.

Bright: Well, now, ⁓ for sure. now with AI, the stuff that they could do clone your voice, ⁓ video doctor, doctor. ⁓ yeah. Stealing social security numbers.

Nilla: print a different identity, become Obama.

Duds: You think they could track you like that? Well, they don't even need to. They don't even need to. They have the wifi signal and they have all the cell phones. So they probably have like a 3d map of everywhere. Yeah. Ghost murmur.

Bright: Yep. Yep. That's true. They were, they were talking about this on Joe Rogan. think it was Joe Rogan. was listening to the other day about how, you know, basically the government listening in on all conversations now, and they just feed it through a program and AI is sorting all of it. So like, nobody has to be listening. Right. Right. Which they were already kind of doing that a little bit. Like, you know, like if you said the word bomb or

Nilla: And they can use their mama.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Red flagging. Dude, right now, I'm gonna say it before anybody else does. If any of us go missing, I mean, right here, come on. You said it first.

Bright: Yeah. Well, and that's what some of these scientists were like this lady, know, she, she was like, I would never off myself. Like if I off myself, that did not, that's not how it happened. Well, then she killed herself supposedly.

Nilla: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Great.

Duds: Yeah, you're never going to like leave your wallet, your keys and your cell phone all there, right? And just go for a walk and never come back.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little fishy. It's kind of like the guy that was going to testify against Boeing and then he just ends up dead by suicide. And then he, he wrote ⁓ a letter like two weeks prior saying, I will never commit suicide. You know, gave it to his best friend.

Nilla: Yeah. Hmm.

Duds: It's really weird how people that are willing to go and testify against somebody are just like all of sudden really suicidal. You know, like, why would you want to do that?

Bright: I know. Right. Like what are the odds? You know, well, and in this kind of crazy, like you think like back to the mafia days. And I'm sure that happened all the time. And that's why people never wanted to testify because they, you know, they were going to get off. But then you kind of think you're like, ⁓ well, by today's standards, nobody does that anymore. We got rid of the mob. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now it's the government or yeah. Or the, or the left. Yeah. Somebody. Yeah.

Nilla: Sure. Yeah. Yeah, Right. Exactly. Well, somebody. The Russians.

Duds: There's one mob that we get rid of. All of them.

Bright: All right. So to wrap up the, I wrapped up the UFO stuff. ⁓ you know, Trump, he's been talking about all this now and saying that he's just going to declassify everything. Now, whether or not that actually happens, I don't know. ⁓ you know, the Pentagon's supposed to release information, more videos. We'll see Nilla.

Nilla: and approach her.

Duds: Prove it.

Nilla: He did declassify something just the other day. Weed.

Bright: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah. I think that was today. I think that was today. Medical medical marijuana. So yeah. Yeah. Right. And then he also did, ⁓ he's fast tracking FDA approval on the, ⁓ anti or psychotic, whatever it's called psychedelics, psychedelics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Joe Rogan, if you listen to him, I mean, he talks about this stuff all the time. And then he was at the white house.

Nilla: Actually, maybe. still declassified. One step. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Psychedelics.

Nilla: Mm. Mm.

Bright: talking about all this stuff. And then he got actual like hammered online, you know, for being there with Trump and all that stuff. I don't know, just anybody that does anything with Trump or RFK, they're, they're ostracized by the left. They're canceled. that. Like Joe Rogan was already pretty much canceled by the left. So the, the right supports them certainly. And the, and the libertarians and all of that. All right.

Duds: For what? ⁓

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, yeah.

Duds: You're next to Trump. You're terrible.

Nilla: Sure. Yeah. Yeah Mm-hmm.

Duds: I just think people that have a brain, you If you don't have a brain, you're not gonna do it.

Nilla: if I only had a brain.

Bright: For sure. All right. The Tin Man. Yeah.

Nilla: Was it a man or?

Bright: ⁓ all right, next topic. moving on, we missing, UFO generals, missing scientists go back and listen to the last episode. I guess we'll see where this lands. Trump did say that we should know everything about these missing scientists within about a week and a half. Well, that was about a week and a half ago. So yeah, I don't know. That's just cause Trump has no filter. I'll just say,

Nilla: Wow, really? How would he possibly know that? Like what?

Duds: How can you come out and say that? We'll tell you what happened in a week and a half.

Nilla: That's true. I know right now, but I can't tell you yet, but in a week and a maybe.

Bright: Well, that's the thing he might, he might know, he, know, that he might have that information already. Yeah. I don't know. All right. We got to talk about a couple of other things and I, I do have some politics in here. ⁓ have you guys heard about the stop Nick Shirley act?

Nilla: as possible. Sure. Yeah, a little bit.

Duds: ⁓ my gosh. Yeah. In California.

Bright: This, this is a little insane. Is it not? Are they not trying to silence journalists? And is this not, you know, if, if the, if the conservatives were doing this, the Republicans, the left would have a field day with first, first amendment violations. Well, for sure. A hundred percent. So that's what amazes me about this thing. So the bill pits the safety and privacy of immigration service providers.

Nilla: ⁓ yes. ⁓ my gosh. Insane. No way. The whole country would be burned down by now.

Bright: against first amendment rights of independent journalists and quote unquote citizen reporters who investigate that.

Nilla: He'll be dead soon, I guarantee it. Yep. Somebody will kill him, that's how it works. Well, of course.

Bright: Nick Shirley? Let's hope not.

Duds: I hope not, but I do think that his life is at risk.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah, well, I don't know how much.

Nilla: But yeah, how would it not be?

Duds: I mean, think about the, think about the hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud. That's a lot of money. And he's one guy that, you know, if they think they can silence him, but you do something like that and you might get more people, you know, to come out and defense and start doing it. So it might get worse for him. You know, if you, if you make a martyr out of somebody like that, then, you know, you can make the movement even more powerful.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know.

Nilla: Well, like Charlie Kirk.

Bright: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. They killed Charlie Kirk.

Nilla: I mean, you know, I'm trying to silence them, but guess what it did? The opposite.

Duds: So.

Bright: You know, this podcast might even, might not even exist if Charlie Kirk hadn't been murdered. Yeah. It's possible.

Nilla: Yeah, exactly. Hopefully. It's possible actually, you know.

Duds: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of weird cause and effect, know, things that happen.

Bright: It is, it is. Well, I don't know how much money Nick Shirley has made from going viral on social media. You know, maybe he's gotten some donors and I think he's sold some t-shirts. I don't know. Hopefully it's enough that he can get some private security because, know, to your point, he might need it. You know, he was out there. saw videos of him like confronting the, the state reps that were voting on this bill dubbed the stop Nick Shirley act. Right. So

Nilla: Yeah, for sure.

Duds: I would hope so.

Nilla: Mm. Mm-hmm.

Bright: ⁓ I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens to him.

Duds: What's his, do you even even looked into him before? What is his background? Like, why is he even doing it? You know?

Bright: You know, I don't know, he could have been motivated by Charlie Kirk for all we know. Maybe, maybe he was just some college kid, didn't know what to do after college and, and decided to go this route. I don't know. Like maybe we should do a little bit of research on, on Nick Shirley. You know, when you're young like that, honestly, like when you graduate college, you're 22, 23 years old. I know you, you have to make money, but you've got seven years.

Nilla: as possible.

Duds: This is interesting.

Nilla: Yeah, maybe next week.

Bright: Right. For between the, until you turn 30 or whatever, where in theory you could probably do like whatever you want. Right. Like you can scrape by your parents. If they have money, they'll probably help you out a little bit. Yeah. You got to be making some kind of income, but you're not really getting taken seriously at a real job until you're 30 anyway, unless you're, unless you're an Ivy league big shot or, know, you're, you're we're born on third base, but, ⁓ you know, for, for normal people, you.

Nilla: Yeah, I'm sure pretty much. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah, silver spoon.

Bright: That's like an eight year window that I don't think we probably took advantage of, you know? Yeah. Yeah. We played around. I had a, I had a crappy job, you know, a job that barely paid the bills, a going nowhere job. Right. Yeah. Well now, right. But who knows if we would have taken that those eight years and tried to do something creative and you know, we, we could be off doing something else.

Nilla: ⁓ we didn't do shit, we played around, yeah.

Duds: ⁓ yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. But look at us, we're all okay, you know? I mean, you know. Sure.

Duds: I don't know, man. mean, I know people that, that took some time off like that and didn't really like get into their career, like, or try to get into what they wanted to do. And they did some other stuff and then, then they, they did that for like eight years. And then they came back and tried to get back into like getting into an office environment and doing project management and stuff like that. And just not knowing how to do any of it, you know, and just not being able to, not being able to pick it up.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Making more money. Anything right then they didn't have any experience and couldn't yeah

Nilla: Hmm. Mm.

Bright: Too little, too late. Yeah. Well, you know, they talk about that a lot. they call it, right. They call it like the half life of your industry. Have you heard this before? think duds like engineering, your industry, like the half life of, of everything in engineering is like, I don't know, like eight years or something, which basically means like, I think it means like four years in like half of the information that you've learned is now outdated. Right.

Nilla: Hmm. Mm-hmm.

Duds: What do mean?

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, I mean.

Bright: So, right. So if you, if you, you graduated from college and you know, you, you work for eight years, four years of that, or four years worth of that information is crap or 50 % of that information is no longer valid. I have to look up exactly what it is.

Nilla: I don't know. Okay, I can see it. Yeah, I know what you're saying. mean, yeah, I guess it kind of makes it not to my engineering specifically about anything almost kind of. Yeah, technology. mean, you know.

Bright: Yeah, it's, it's anything. mean, like the medical field, anything that has changing. Yeah. Technology. Right. So if you don't do it for eight years, well now everything that you learned back in college is worthless. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah, totally right. Exactly. Interesting.

Duds: Right. There you go. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't think that some of those, you know, like sciences and that would be outdated after eight years. So that doesn't sound right.

Bright: Yeah. Outdated is the wrong word, but they learn new things like, you haven't kept up with those things. You haven't stayed up to date with the knowledge of it or whatever.

Nilla: depends on what they learn, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like what if you didn't use a computer for eight years or a phone and then like you'd be like, what the crap is this? How do I use this? Is this an iPhone or?

Duds: Sure.

Bright: I can't even, I can't even use an iPhone for Christ's sakes, you know, so, but you're right. Yeah. Stop using a phone, do an experiment. Yeah. Stop using a phone today and in eight years, try and use.

Duds: That's true. That would be interesting though. To go back to school, yeah, it would be interesting to go back to school and see if the classes were similar. How much of that is still being done? Or how many new classes have they put in place? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure they do studies on it.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Right. Sure. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah, is it harder? it probably easier? Yeah. What do mean you can't flock now? I mean, they have to pass you pretty much, so it's gotta be easier. I mean.

Bright: Yep, absolutely. I don't know. I don't know. That is true. They almost have to pass you. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that is a big thing.

Duds: Do you remember? ⁓ Do you remember doing phonics in school like when we were in grade school?

Bright: Yeah, of course. Yeah, absolutely. I remember we had a phonics book. Like a workbook.

Duds: Greg, do you remember that, like when you were in school? Have you seen that meme where the guy's hooked on phonics and his dad catches him? I've been hooked on phonics since I was 14. Well, anyway. But they don't teach that anymore, like in a lot of schools. They don't teach you the phonics of the English language. Which don't you think that's kind of important to know how to?

Nilla: Not specifically, like being hooked on it.

Bright: Yeah, being hooked on it. That's exactly it.

Nilla: No, I don't know. I don't know, maybe sounds familiar.

Bright: What is it?

Nilla: You Mm. Yeah, yeah.

Bright: Yeah, it's definitely different.

Nilla: Well, they don't.

Duds: for your reading and writing and speech.

Nilla: you

Bright: So my wife, my wife, when she taught first grade, they did a blend. So they would do some phonics, but not like we did phonics. ⁓ and then they do their big thing. And you might know this duds is sight words, you know, so instead of like learning all the rules, now they do learn some of the rules of the letter sounds and putting sounds together, but they also just look at a lot of words and essentially memorize them, which, which

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Mm-hmm.

Nilla: Mm.

Bright: That is what we do like when you go to read you're not reading anymore Your brain has memorized those words You know, so you don't actually have to read them and so you've seen those tests where they they jumble all the letters and you could still read what the word is as long as the first letter and the last letter are the same you just You know, so

Nilla: Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Alright. Yeah, you're basically skimming.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, yeah. Yeah. Maybe another letter in the middle there or something like that you might see or yeah.

Duds: I know what that word's supposed to mean.

Bright: Yeah, my daughter is all about because we have flashcards for her sight words and she likes to read them upside down. And I'm like, I mean, that's a good skill, I guess, you know, for your brain. But I don't know.

Nilla: Mmm. could be. You ever see that like in a mirror somebody shows a picture you know whether it be a selfie or something like that and you're like what the crap does that say because it's like backwards but like yeah I can do upside down better than I can backwards I'm like what these people realize that it's backwards in the picture or not I don't know

Bright: Yeah, that's, that is harder for whatever reason. Yeah, sure. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're turning your head, you know, trying to like, how do you read that?

Duds: Bye. I had no idea though that they would ⁓ change the way kids work just to learn how to read, like the actual technique. You know what mean?

Nilla: Well, they changed how to do math.

Bright: If they find a real better way, the same with Common Core Math, right Nella? They've learned different ways. No. And when, when I do math with my

Nilla: Yeah, I don't understand it. It doesn't make sense.

Duds: So is it better or is it just different? Like who knows which is the better way?

Bright: It's just different. Yeah, I don't think anybody does. And it's different for every kid, you know? So like we're teaching Catalina. Yeah, we're teaching cat all the different ways, you know? So we're right. You know, there might be one official way when she's in math class, but when she comes home and she's doing it with us, she knows, she knows the different ways. And the fact of matter is, and I hated this even, I remember being in, in like seventh grade and I found a better way to do one of our math things. Uh, but

Duds: And who makes the decision?

Nilla: Yeah. The Board of Education.

Bright: Our teacher wouldn't let me do it that way. So if I did it on the test, she would give me a zero and she was like, that's not the way to do it. Yes. I'd be like, but I got to the right answer just because I didn't do it the way that you wanted me to do it. What does it matter? My way is shorter and faster, but it wasn't the right way. I think when it comes to math, all that matters is whatever strategy works for you to help you get to the correct answer, whether it's regrouping or I don't really know the other ones.

Nilla: like when you showed your work, mean or something? Yeah. Yeah. well,

Duds: She didn't like that,

Nilla: Yeah, of course. Reducing fractions? I don't know.

Duds: Unless the teacher teaches you a certain way and they want to see it that way.

Bright: Long division. Yeah. Well, if you've seen any of these like TikTok videos or stuff when it comes to like math every now and then they'll pop up and a lot of them is fractions and they're like, well, if you know how to add fracture, I sucked at that when I was a kid. Well, they show you all these cheats, you know, and then even though it's not the official way to do it, it always works. So I'm like, why didn't they just teach us that? It doesn't make sense. And of course.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Duds: There's so many different ways to teach you. They didn't have the internet.

Nilla: They didn't know. They didn't know then.

Bright: Yeah. Of course, for sure. That was probably part of it. And now you have just the simple, the simple phrase. You remember, well, you're not always going to have a calculator in your pocket.

Nilla: That's not the way they knew, so they didn't teach it that way. I mean...

Duds: It was their shortcut.

Nilla: Yeah, here we are. Well, we don't know about the future, but I mean...

Bright: Yeah, yeah, we are. So. Well, you got one on your on your wrist now. Yeah.

Duds: Let me just ask AI.

Nilla: I don't actually that's another thing they don't teach them teach cursive. don't think hardly they don't teach how to read a non digital clock. What do call it? A critical analog? Is that it? I was like, no.

Duds: Analog? Non-digital.

Bright: ⁓ an analog clock. Yeah. Yeah. We're teaching our daughter how to read an analog clock, of course, but the one in our, our kitchen has Roman numerals. So now I got, I'm trying to like teach her the Roman numerals now. She hasn't learned that yet.

Nilla: ⁓ there's another one they probably don't teach a whole bunch.

Duds: got a teacher. Yep.

Nilla: Just tell her to figure out what Superbowl it is.

Duds: That'll be fun. Then she can see what's super. Exactly. Nice. Yep, got me.

Bright: Exactly.

Nilla: Damn, beat you to it. I remember that though when I was younger. I don't remember learning Roman numerals, but every time there'd be a Super Bowl battle. What the crap number is this? Come on, what are we? We're not Roman.

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: One more than last year.

Bright: That's exactly, that's all that matters. All right.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: How do you add Roman numerals? ⁓ man.

Bright: Back to Nick Shirley. We are very good with our tangents. ⁓ back to Nick Shirley. So yeah, the code code tangent back to math, right? ⁓ so this bill, listen to some of these things though, with the bill, it allows providers to petition to have their homes, homes and business addresses redacted from public records. If they can show a quote unquote credible threat of harm.

Nilla: attention.

Duds: Nice. What does that mean?

Nilla: Hmm. Alright.

Bright: crazy. It means nothing. Exactly. Anybody could say it. They don't want their business address listed. Done. Grants providers the right to sue for damages and legal fees if their information is shared in violation of the act. It would be up to a $10,000 fine for anybody that is sharing info that's not authorized. Any unauthorized users.

Nilla: Hmm.

Bright: So it's ridiculous, ridiculous. So critics ask, right. And that's, that's ultimately what it ends up being, which is crazy. It's crazy. And of course, a lot of this comes down to like immigration in California, of course, you know, but there's no line between what is harassment and what is investigation. Right. So that's a big thing. ⁓ if the facility is taxpayer funded, the location and operation should be public record.

Duds: Well, you got to protect the fraudsters. mean, that's what's important.

Nilla: That's right. That's right. Yeah. Sure. Hmm?

Bright: So that's an argument from, you know, for people that are against this. ⁓ The concern is that the law would be used selectively to protect political allies of the state. Duh.

Nilla: ⁓ Well, what doesn't make sense, which is I still can't fathom in general stuff like this that like certain people don't get behind because how much 450 was a million or dollars in fraud roughly? Billion? Billion.

Duds: Billion billions think it was billions

Bright: re billion. It's crazy. When you go back to COVID and now you got all the stuff in Minnesota and

Nilla: What was it 52? it, was it 42 hospices and four blocks? I mean, like, let's hear the stats. Where are they at?

Bright: Right. Yes. Yes. And well, RFK said something the other day, and I think I shared it in the chat. He was on, on the Hill and they were asking him with that question. And he said, whatever number it was, you know, like we put a stop to, yeah, 400 hospices and we haven't gotten one call asking to be reinstated. Not one. Why do you think that is? And he said that he was like, because they were all fraud. So, so then I also wanted to talk a little bit. This is.

Nilla: Yeah, why is that? Huh, that's it. Wow. Yeah, more fraud.

Duds: Yeah.

Nilla: out of the democratic states.

Bright: switching topics just a little bit. wanted to talk about Spencer Pratt. Cause I listened to that Joe Rogan episode and this ties into exactly what we're talking about. Yeah. I don't know if you listened to that episode duds. It's really good. So he was the villain on the Hills. Do you remember Laguna beach and the Hills back in the day?

Duds: Who's Spencer Brett?

Nilla: So that's a no.

Duds: Oh no, I didn't listen to that one. Yep.

Nilla: Oh, yeah. I have seen it maybe once, I don't know.

Bright: And it was a TV show, but yeah. Well, the Hills are not the Hills Laguna beach is back in the news because they just filmed the reunion for the Roku channel, I guess. Um, but this is kind of separate. No Laguna Laguna beach. Yeah. Yeah. But after Laguna beach ended, then they started the Hills Spencer Pratt eventually started in the Hills. He married Heidi Montag who was.

Nilla: Jersey Shore? Same thing basically, but opposite coast.

Duds: Tim Tam Laundry.

Bright: Lauren Conrad's friend and then he played the villain. Of course, anybody that watched the show hated him, but obviously at some point it came out that it was all fake and he was like, I'm not that bad of a guy. I just wanted to be on TV and I found a way that worked for me to be on TV. So I played a character. Yeah. It's a fake reality show. I mean, that's what it is. It's a

Duds: So like a reality show, right?

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah, was like a real it was but it's how it was recorded was like a reality. Yeah. Exactly. They're all fake.

Nilla: Yeah. It's like it's like any reality show you mean fake.

Bright: Yes, exactly. So that's how we got famous and they're all fake. So he got famous from that, but then his house burned down in the Palisades fire and his parents' house. And then he just got so pissed and, you know, kept investigating all the stuff about why it happened, how it happened, you know, and then how California screw and everybody to help them rebuild. And he just said, screw this. I'm going to run for mayor. So it seemed out.

Duds: So he's got Black Build.

Bright: Yeah. Well, I mean a little bit, but it seemed outlandish at the time, but I think at this point he's like the number two candidate and has a pretty legitimate shot of winning. And so now that he's been on Joe Rogan, ⁓ and after listening to the episode, I'm like, okay, this guy seems smarter than even I gave him credit for. He's our age roughly, you know, and he said he probably doesn't have to do a whole lot. I'm assuming he has decent money. ⁓ so he said he's just spending his time.

Duds: That'd be good.

Bright: research and all this crap. And one of the things he found were all this, this hospice stuff and how they were building all these hospices and they would draw out the actual construction of them with all these taxpayer grants and all this stuff. he said, some of these have been under construction for like seven years, but yet every year they get money for each bed that they haven't even built yet.

Duds: ⁓ my god.

Nilla: Hmm.

Bright: So basically if they say this is going to be a hundred bed hospice facility, the government pays them out every year for each bed in that facility, even though the facility is not built yet. So they're purposefully dragging it out and siphoning money from the taxpayer. And so when he talks about all this stuff, well, right. That's kind of what he says. He's like, it's all, he's like, that's all a scam. And then of course he goes into more stuff about

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: That's never going to be done. Why would you ever complete it?

Nilla: Apparently.

Bright: Guess who the developer is as the owner who's the guy that bought the land for cheap, whatever it all ties in. And it basically ends up being the same company that's running the whole show. Yeah. So go check out that episode. I was really into it. Surprisingly. I didn't think I would be.

Duds: Gavin Newscom.

Nilla: Mm.

Duds: How many politicians do you think are on the take? Especially out there. It's gotta be almost all of them.

Bright: ⁓ well, we we could talk a little bit. ⁓ all of them. Right. But look at Eric Swalwell, who just got busted. Right. We don't really have to go into all the specifics, but got busted for all this, you know, sex stuff and harassment and all that stuff. Well, a couple of things on that. ⁓ he's the worst. Apparently, everybody kind of knew it like it was one of these known secret things. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: He's deviant.

Nilla: they always do it seems like too.

Duds: You could kind of tell by looking at him. He looked like a, just a creep.

Nilla: I'm looking out. ⁓

Bright: Yeah, of course. Yes, he does. He looks like a creep, right? ⁓ you know, any of these quote unquote effeminate males, like he was trying to be masculine maybe, but he wasn't, I don't know. Anyhow, I digress, but he, ⁓ apparently he got busted today because he started up like essentially this fake AI company, ⁓ with his buddy. And then he was using his.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Yeah.

Bright: ⁓ campaign contributions to fund his business, ⁓ in this AI thing, like this guy, like, come on. So he's, he's on the take, he's doing all the stuff. And then of course he's sexually harassing women. But the conspiracy out there about him is of course, is the California governor's race. So two Republicans are leading that race right now. And the way that the California primary works is only the top two primary vote getters make it.

Nilla: Of course. Mm.

Bright: onto the actual governor race. So if the top two end up being Republican, you're guaranteed a Republican governor.

Duds: Right. Yeah, regardless of your party.

Nilla: Hmm. ⁓ it doesn't matter. The Democrats will still vote him in because that's what they do. They're stupid.

Bright: Well, well, eventually you got to vote somebody in, guess who they just got rid of? Was this by design? Eric Swalwell had to drop out of the race. So did they do this to him so that they could make it easier? Cause now all of those votes have to go somewhere else. I got to go to another Democrat. You know, so the Democrat.

Nilla: Mmm. Yeah, true. Well, didn't they already do that before with Harris?

Duds: That's true. Kamala? Did they knock her out somehow?

Nilla: Didn't they do that? Yeah, kind of similar. Well, yeah, I don't know.

Bright: Kamala or with Biden, did it with, ⁓ they did it with, you know, they got rid of Biden and then it just left Kamala.

Nilla: Yeah, was like boom, last minute, like, ⁓ yeah, no. It's like, what? Where do you think they're going to? The votes? mean, they're not going to the opposite. Yeah.

Bright: Right. Right. They're manipulating. They're manipulating the voting. So, I mean, it might not be the actual votes themselves, but you know, they're, they're taking the candidate base and making it smaller by releasing this information. That's the conspiracy. I'm not saying that is what happened. He also may have just been a sicko and it just so happened to be that it came out now, but it is odd that why did it come out now? He's been in Congress for a long time. He got busted sleeping with the Chinese spy.

Nilla: Yeah. Well, well maybe. Mm.

Bright: Somehow he didn't get, he didn't get booted at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Nah, still voted him in.

Duds: It is kind of crazy how they do their elections out there. I think they could do that statewide for all elections too. It's not just the governor. It's like every, every race is done that way. think every state, every state, ⁓ election.

Nilla: Hmm.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Is that a, you know, is that a, are they rigging it to make sure that they, cause more times than not, especially by today's standard, they're just going to have two Democrat candidates.

Nilla: this.

Duds: I dunno.

Nilla: Yeah, right. See, I don't know. I don't really like that. It should be the same everywhere.

Duds: You'd think, but how is that happening now? See, well, I think they had a, they have a bunch of, they have a bunch of Democrat candidates. So it's spreading the vote out amongst a bunch of those candidates and they have few, very few Republicans that are getting all the votes. So if you get down to just one Republican, you probably, he would probably win.

Bright: Alright. Well, right now, yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Yeah.

Nilla: Well, it's true, you would think. Well, right.

Bright: Well, he would at least get to the final ballot. You know, I, you know, I guess if you get two on there.

Duds: Although you really kind of want two Republicans because if one of the Democrats makes it, then they could probably take it. So you really want two Republicans and then the better one. If you want a Republican, does it really matter? mean, they're all the same.

Nilla: Well sure.

Bright: Right. Yup. Well, these other, these other Democrats, right. Right. I know. ⁓ it's California. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Wasn't he a Republican?

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah, do you really believe that? don't know.

Nilla: I so. Yeah. You believe that, I don't know.

Bright: ⁓ I don't know. ⁓ he was the governor, you know, he was the governor back in the day. ⁓ Chuck Norris was never the governor, but who there was the Jesse Ventura. Wasn't he the governor of Montana? I think so. Yeah. If I remember correctly. All right. I think so.

Duds: The governor. Screw your freedoms. Screw your freedom.

Nilla: Chuck Norris? ⁓ wait, He was the governor of the world. Maybe. Yeah.

Duds: No, was it? South Dakota?

Nilla: I don't know, whatever state it was. What'd say? South Dakota?

Duds: I think it was South Dakota. Minnesota.

Bright: I think, I think it was mine. I think it was Montana. No, definitely not Minnesota. No. All right. Next topic moving right along here. All right. This one is huge. Yeah.

Duds: Was it Minnesota?

Nilla: Meh. I don't know.

Duds: Hey, hold on. Nope, we're not moving on yet. Did you hear about the Virginia vote?

Nilla: Thank you.

Bright: Yes. Yeah, I did. Yes.

Duds: You did. Did you see the wording on that, the bill or not the bill? It was like a ⁓ amendment or what were they trying to do past some kind of. What do call that?

Bright: They're trying to gerrymander, ⁓ gerrymander the congressional votes for the state of Virginia, of which the Republicans, the conservatives have been accused of doing this as well too, and states like Texas and Florida and stuff like that. Now the Republicans come back and they say, Hey, this is, we're only just fixing it. Like the Democrats did it to us and the Democrats come out and they say we're against gerrymandering. Well, then.

Nilla: Thank you, Commander.

Bright: Virginia, the governor of Virginia came out and said that gerrymandering should be illegal. And then now she's trying to gerrymander. Am I saying the right word? once you say it enough, you say it too many times and you're like, is that even the word? So, so she's come out and said that it should be illegal, but now she's doing it. And yes, in the, in the verbiage, it says to, to make the election more fair, but by whose standards?

Nilla: I think you got it there.

Duds: gerrymander

Nilla: Of course.

Duds: It was, it was to restore fairness. said that. Pass this, you know, amendment to restore fairness in the voting. It's like, how do you put those types of words on any type of ballot measure to restore fairness? You're steering people clearly to one answer, right? Do you, do you think fairness is good or bad? Like, of course you would think it was good to be fair. So I should pass this.

Nilla: Well, right, exactly.

Bright: Right, right, cause yeah.

Nilla: Alright.

Bright: Well think think the circuit circuit district court in Virginia rejected that bill though. So I don't know if it's going to hit the ballot or even if it does. I heard that it didn't make it.

Nilla: Right.

Duds: No, they didn't. They approved it. It said they approved it. ⁓ I read that they approved it. It was going on as it said. ⁓ huh. I thought so.

Nilla: it was Minnesota that he was the governor of. looked it up. Minnesota says right here.

Bright: No, Jesse Ventura. Damn. I could have sworn it was Montana. Hmm. Like, yeah. All right. Well, that was, ⁓ what do they call that? ⁓ A Mandela effect, I guess. I don't know. Of course, if it's just me, then I was just wrong.

Nilla: They start with an Yeah. Well.

Duds: He was bouncing around from my head. knew he was one of those North States. couldn't remember which one.

Bright: Yep. Yep. Yep. ⁓ so I don't know, we'll see where Virginia goes, but we've talked about this on the pod before too. Like this new governor, the new state governing body. Yeah. The, their taxes and now this, like they are, they've yeah. They, well, all of them, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Well, New York too. But we went through, yeah, we went through the list on the podcast about all the taxes Virginia had on like day one. It was out of control.

Duds: Virginia screwed. Yeah

Nilla: I thought that was New York. West Virginia too? That's true. Yeah. So basically. ⁓

Duds: It's all of them. It's happening everywhere.

Nilla: Yeah. Well, so basically we have a West Coast jacked up basically, and then we have the East Northeast Coast, if you will, you know, the New England, they're all jacked up to you with taxes and shit and stupidity and somebody raised their hand. I was like, what happened? Well, yes, it does.

Duds: So.

Bright: Yeah, Dud is anxious. He's anxious to say something.

Duds: I was say, you think that, I mean, one of these States is going to have to collapse eventually, right? New York, like city is going to have to collapse under the weight of, giving free stuff to everyone, right? California under the weight of all the fraud. So do we eventually get leaders in those places that can actually turn things around? Like what I was sending, sending you guys earlier about El Salvador, right? If you get the right person put in place, a lot can change, you know,

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. You're the only thing. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.

Duds: pretty quickly. Yeah. So I mean, do you think that these places are going to get so bad that Americans are like, okay, let's stop with the identity politics and stop with all this, whoever is going to fix this, we're going to vote for them. And do you think you could, do you think you could actually even get people to get in there and do it or they just become corrupted so quickly?

Bright: Argentina, was the same thing happened in Argentina. I mean, right?

Nilla: Maybe, I don't know. That's true too.

Bright: I mean, we, yeah, I mean that, that is something, but I mean, if you think about it, like if you ever ran for office, I mean, maybe everybody starts out this way and then they get corrupted. But like, if I ran for office, I'd be like, I'd run as a good dude. wouldn't let people bully me and, you know, so you, right. You say that, but then you're right. Sure. So then you either get booted, you know, because, because the caucus.

Nilla: Yeah. Right. Easy to say now though.

Duds: I'd like to think so. And I think most people would like to think so, you know.

Nilla: Right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: You know, after two years or whatever it is, they're like, we don't like this guy, but right. We're going to primary them. We're going to, we're going to spend a bunch of money. We're going to get them out. Look up. Let's see. Let's see what happens with John Fetterman, right? Like you think he's going to make, you he's a Senator, so he's got six years, but you think he's going to get another term the way that he's playing ball with the Democrats? I wouldn't think so. Now, maybe he changes parties.

Duds: Get blackballed. He doesn't play ball. Mm-hmm.

Nilla: Probably not.

Duds: You know who was really smart? It George Orwell.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Did you ever read Animal Farm? I mean, he kind of, was a...

Bright: Cause he predicted all this, way back in the day, maybe back in high school or something or college. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Kind of a visionary, you I think, well, he, think he grew up in under communist rule or whatever, you know, or lived through communist time and, ⁓ yeah, animal farm, you know, the pigs eventually become the humans, right?

Bright: Yeah. Uhhhh

Nilla: animal house.

Bright: Yeah. I got a book right up here on my bookshelf, the radical mind by David Horowitz. And it's, ⁓ it's all about, he grew up under communist rule. Yeah. Grew up under communist rule. And he talks all about how, you know, we're turning into a socialist country and, know, how people think it's the answer. And he assures us it is not.

Duds: I think I've heard of that. Yeah. Animal farm is a really good book. And I've actually looked into like what the, what the different animals are supposed to represent. And they, know, actually if there's some analysis of that and talks about, know, how the horse is representing the working people of the country and, uh, the different, yeah, certain pigs were like represented different factions of, uh, political parties. I think it was back when, that in Russia?

Nilla: Okay.

Bright: Yeah.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. I've heard that before, like the animals. Yeah.

Duds: or a...

Nilla: Probably. Yeah.

Duds: I think it was, I think it was in Russia. Yeah. The communist like revolution going on in Russia. And then, uh, you know, they chased away like the one good pig, I guess that had the good ideas of like the Republic type, you know, democracy thoughts. And then they kept the pig with the communist ideals, the socialist ideals. This is more socialism, uh, kept them around, but then the pigs, you know, they chased off the farmer at the beginning because he was abusive and all that.

Bright: Makes sense.

Nilla: Mmm, yeah.

Duds: But the pigs over time at the end of the story, you know, the other animals look in on the pigs sitting around the table and they all turn into humans. So it's kind of like, well, when you get that power, does it corrupt you? know, and then you become.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah, they're doing the same thing. Yeah. Right.

Duds: power that you kind of over through, you know.

Bright: If you, if you ever study Russian history, it's actually pretty fascinating. You know, going back to the old. Sure. Yeah. I mean, the czars, the Bolshevik revolution, all the USSR. Um, it's, it's, it's actually pretty crazy history. If you ever want to do a deep dive.

Nilla: Great.

Duds: Goes on for a long time. When you think we're going to be 250 years old America, but those countries like China and Russia and Germany, I mean, they go back thousands of years, you know, like.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: It is, it is crazy. Yeah. And that's why they, that's why they call us the, you know, the great American experiment. We were the first true democracy. ⁓ yeah. The new world for sure. For sure. mean, you go over to go over to Europe, you'll go to a bar that's been around longer than the United States of America. You know, so, ⁓ it is pretty nuts. All right.

Nilla: See you.

Duds: Yeah, Britain, mean, forever.

Nilla: Bye, Ran. The New World

Duds: still babies compared to the rest of the world, really.

Nilla: Yeah, ⁓ yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.

Bright: Got to get back on point here. I've got a few more topics. I don't have a wheel topic tonight. So, cause I just thought this is kind of like the wheel. I'm just going, you know, through them, but I feel like we have to talk about this. This, this is a huge story. And I think we're just scratching the surface of this, the Southern poverty law center controversy. Now I, you posted on this, but

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Just go for it, man. ⁓ yeah, nice. I use those guys.

Bright: You do what?

Duds: I'm kidding.

Nilla: Did use them?

Bright: You, I don't even know what that means for your, ⁓ yeah, they're your lawyers. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. I'm like, well, you use them for what? No, ⁓ this is, this is insane. So they're being well on that. And that's what it is. They're taking money from their donors and they're giving the money to organizations like the KKK so that they have racist rallies so that they can get more donations.

Duds: Yeah, he is one of my lawyers.

Nilla: ⁓ I don't know the story.

Duds: for all the KKK rallies. Yeah, make it make sense, right?

Bright: So, right, so we were talking about like the circle, right? The circle of life.

Nilla: Alright.

Duds: It's like giving money to your government. It's like giving money to your government to fight terrorism. And then the government giving the money to the terrorists so that they can be armed and be terrorists so that the government can fight you so they can get money from us to go fight them. Right.

Nilla: Wow, that sounds like real life.

Bright: Yeah. So, but like this is, this is hardcore, hardcore illegal, of course. So they've gotten busted by the DOJ and what's kind of crazy is. Of course that's, that's how it works. You know, ⁓ now there's been some major donors, George Clooney, Tim Cook, Apple, MGM resorts. They're all donating, donating millions of dollars to this organization. ⁓ thinking that they're against hate.

Duds: Kind of the same thing. It's another grift. And we're always the ones paying for it.

Nilla: Yeah, no matter what.

Duds: bunch of racists.

Bright: But yet they're the ones that are actually fostering the hate. They're creating the hate and the racism. So now there are questions about the, know, knowingly that's the thing they're knowingly doing.

Duds: Funding hate.

Nilla: Well...

Duds: unknowingly or unknowingly.

Nilla: Mmm. ⁓ no, no, no. ⁓

Duds: No, no, no, the donors did the donors now to

Nilla: Yeah. There's no way.

Bright: Well, so they talked about that in the news commentary and they said, probably not, but it is possible. And they said that they're going to start investigating the donors because of the donors.

Duds: Mmmhmmm. I mean, do really think these people are donating millions of dollars and not asking any questions on what they're doing with it?

Nilla: Hmm.

Bright: Well, so something that happened. you had the, you had the thing in, ⁓ the, you had the thing in the Carolinas. You remember the fine people hoax with Trump, right? That guy ran over a bunch of people and the Democrats ran on the fact that they thought the Donald Trump said that there were fine people on both sides, which is not what he said. And that's, that's been debunked despite the left's attempts to keep that alive. But, ⁓ so after that.

Nilla: It's right off.

Duds: ⁓ yeah.

Nilla: Yeah. you

Bright: Is when like George Clooney donated a million dollars and Tim Cook donated a million dollars because they think that white supremacy is like a thing, even though it wasn't. it's possible that this. Well, that's the, well, and it's possible that the Southern poverty law center is funded that protest and that white supremacy hate group that.

Duds: It wasn't before they donated.

Nilla: I mean it was but...

Duds: So if they're the ones funding the KKK, aren't they the KKK?

Bright: You would that that's actually makes a lot of sense. That actually makes a lot of sense.

Nilla: I mean, to some degree, that's yeah. I've heard in the past about a certain group or organization down around Festus-ish area, I think it is that is a group of guys that meet, you know, and that they basically didn't allow black people. And I was like, what? Like, this is still going on. I was like, how is this legal? But

Bright: It's not.

Nilla: Well, it's not legal legal, but who's going to try to go there and become a member basically when there's all white dudes. I mean, it's just maybe eventually, but I don't know. I'm not sure. They're probably, you know, Sean or something, whatever they do to kind of like, and it's pushing them out.

Duds: Probably a bunch of feds.

Bright: Somebody will. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if you're an official organization. I mean, if you're just a bunch of dudes going to a bar, I guess you got to decide, you know. Well, yeah, you don't have to say the name. Don't don't dock some. ⁓ but right. But I mean, yeah, if they're, if they're getting any kind of tax money, tax breaks, like they can't, they can't do any of that. That's not legal. You can't do that.

Nilla: It's an official organization. I wasn't going to say the name. Yeah, right. Exactly. I don't know. It's crazy.

Duds: Well, whether or not it's legal, is it right or is it wrong? Is it fair? Yeah.

Nilla: Well, right. Is it fair? Yeah.

Bright: Right. It's wrong. Yeah. No. Right. But it works both ways. Right. So it's, you know, ⁓ I don't know. Crazy. ⁓ the other thing that's crazy about this, ⁓ this group, ⁓ and again, the Southern poverty law center is how they just label all of these other groups. Hate organizations, terrorists. Right. So like, ⁓ turning point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization, they label them, ⁓

Nilla: Yeah. Well, sure.

Duds: Exactly. Terrace.

Bright: hate organization. Well then the media picks up on all this stuff. Right? I don't know that now that

Nilla: Let us. Well, I mean, so was mega. mean, of course, you know, I mean, come on.

Bright: Right. I feel like they are getting exposed and they need to be donezo all together.

Nilla: There you go.

Duds: So wasn't Turning Point funded by APAC? And like Israel, and then now they're being labeled a hate group by Southern poverty hotline or whatever they are.

Bright: Yeah, I mean, I, I'm not going to connect the dots and all that stuff. I don't know. I mean, I know that there were some rumors that Charlie Kirk all of a sudden changed his opinion on Israel and then he was murdered and I don't know. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to go there.

Nilla: Hehehe. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Duds: Well, I wasn't even talking about that, but like, who funds them? Turning point USA.

Bright: Right. But did they fund them originally? And then, then he said he wasn't going to take their money anymore. I read all that. I don't know what's true. What's not true. Nilla. I'm like the teacher. I'm just like, raise your hand.

Duds: Hand is raised. Open the queue.

Nilla: I heard something from a guy today at work actually and I was like I haven't heard this yet and I don't know if either of you had. That they now came out and said that the bullet that supposedly shot Charlie Kirk was not from the gun from the kid that we suspect was the one who.

Bright: So that's what the defense said, ⁓ which of course they're going to say that, but then I read something else that the prosecutors were able to prove definitively that it was from the same gun and that they have video evidence that we haven't even seen yet and all kinds of stuff. But that's what I always wonder this about any, any court case. The defense always finds some expert that can come in and back up their case.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Bright: And then the prosecution always finds another expert that comes in and says the other thing. So I was like, so then the jury just picks which one they figure out to be more credible.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Right, exactly. Yeah, who pays the most, you know, in order for this guy to say this, you know? mean, like...

Bright: That's kind of what it starts to feel like. And don't know, do they get paid? these, I think they do. I think these experts do get paid. Why else would they do it? Just out of the goodness of their heart?

Nilla: I don't know, good question. If they... Yeah, right. I don't know. It's a good question. Is it fair? Yeah, probably. I don't know.

Duds: Yeah, probably.

Bright: What happens when the experts are wrong? You know, you look back at like the, ⁓ I don't know if you guys ever followed the Adnan Saeed case, right? Which was the topic of cereal, the Adnan Saeed.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: QAnon? What?

Nilla: I don't know that one specifically, it sounds familiar, but.

Bright: Oh, well, it's pretty popular. Um, it was the serial podcast. No, he was, he was convicted of murdering his girlfriend and it was one of the very first cases back in 1999. Yeah. Look them up. It's a crazy story. So back in 1999, he was, that's when he, the murder happened, but at some point he was on trial and they used one of the first cases that used ping.

Duds: this a soccer player? ⁓

Nilla: you

Duds: ⁓ geez. Why would I look him up?

Nilla: Okay. Mm.

Bright: Pings from cell towers. Well, these experts got up and talked about how it had to be him and it pinged blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, then years later, 20 years later, when there, there, it was the undisclosed podcast is investigating this. And it said on the cover sheet from AT &T that incoming calls were not reliable source for geo location. all the experts on the trial said that it all had to match up.

Nilla: Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, right.

Bright: But AT &T themselves were like, no, no, no, no, you can't use that. So the experts were all wrong. And so it ended up, he ended up getting his conviction, ⁓ vacated and he's a free man. It's a, it is a crazy story. Never.

Nilla: Wow. Interesting. Yeah. Wow, interesting.

Duds: Yeah, you never believe the expert. Seen my cousin Benny, right?

Nilla: It was just on actually, I was watching part of it. Yeah. ⁓

Bright: ⁓ yeah, one of the best. It's always on. It's on TV every day. Every day you can find it somewhere.

Duds: Yeah, I mean. If I come across that, I have to watch it.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Bright: Only the last 20 minutes.

Duds: ⁓ it's so good. The whole show. The whole movie is good.

Bright: Yeah. The movie was very good. Yeah. The mr. Marissa Tomei. Um, uh, who's the, uh, not Danny DeVito, uh, Joe Pesci, uh, Ralph, uh, macho. Yeah. Daniel son, you know, the judge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a good.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Yeah, the judge. Yeah, Daniel's on.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah.

Duds: Yeah, the judge is from, ⁓ what's that from the Munsters, right?

Bright: Yeah. The monsters, think he's a, he's all kinds of things. Just you're right. All right. ⁓ last two things real quick. And, and these are quick hitters. ⁓ Elon Omar, what is going on with her and her. I mean, did you see all this? Her, well, it's all about how much she's worth and all this stuff. It's a little ridiculous. Like, so

Nilla: ⁓ That's a good question. More fraud? What? mean.

Duds: 30 million or 30,000, what is it?

Nilla: Apparently either she is or she isn't. I mean, come on.

Bright: Last year she was worth like between 18,000 and 95,000. Then this year she was worth 6 million to 30 million and everybody was like, what? And then, then she said, sorry, it was an accounting error. And now she's gone back to 18,000 and 95,000. And people were like, wait, yeah.

Nilla: Hmm.

Duds: Well, yeah, why would you want to admit you are worth that much?

Nilla: Yeah, she got rid of it. What do mean?

Bright: I don't know. She blamed it on her husband. You know? Yeah. She said, yeah. you know, he, he has, he runs a winery and

Duds: Whoa, that was a mistake. He's an idiot. It wasn't her fault.

Nilla: Of course she blamed it on her husband. You

Duds: Couldn't have been, couldn't have been her fault.

Bright: Astru LLC winery. And it was originally valued between one and 5 million. And now it has been revised to zero. So it's not worth anything. Strange. mean, the NFNP pod, that's worth nothing, but right. And I don't know, does he have real estate? He might not have real estate. Like, I don't know.

Duds: Wow. Yeah, a lot of real estate's worth zero dollars.

Nilla: Hmm, interesting. Wow, yeah. No.

Duds: I don't know, we could liquidate, we might be worth a dollar.

Nilla: You shouldn't even be able to buy a real estate!

Bright: Well, so then he has a venture capital ⁓ company, Rose Lake Capital LLC that was originally valued at 5 million to 25 million. And now you guessed it zero.

Duds: zero.

Bright: Like what, like it doesn't make any sense, man.

Nilla: man.

Duds: Well, it's just blatant like fraud.

Bright: Yeah. They said that they accidentally reported the total market value of the company. The amendment reflects her husband's actual ownership share.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Accounting error. We accidentally reported the numbers, so we.

Nilla: The funniest thing is, it's not even them. I'm sure they have an accountant or some financial guy. It's not even them. Come on.

Bright: Well, you would think so. And here's the other thing that's a little strange. So now they're saying that they're they're net worth. ⁓ The accountant or her husband.

Duds: Well, he's dead. Maybe both.

Nilla: Good question. Maybe it was Russian spies and was UFOs.

Bright: Maybe both, maybe both. Well, and

Duds: Her husband or her brother?

Bright: Well, and there are some questions about her involved in some of the Somali fraud up in Minnesota. So there's that. Okay. So I know crazy, right? So.

Nilla: What?

Duds: I didn't think there was a question about that.

Bright: This is what it, this is what I find interesting though, duds. And I know you're really big into net worth and all of that. You track your own, think you don't have to say it on air unless you want to just give us your whole social security number while you're at it. Yeah. Zero dollars. Right. All right. ⁓ but, well, so her estimated net worth after, there you go. After, after this filing is

Nilla: ⁓ what? I don't think he's saying it. Can I get taxed on that?

Duds: Zero dollars. Report negative gains.

Nilla: There you go.

Bright: is estimated between 18,000 and 95,000. That's what she's saying her net worth is, but she makes $174,000 annually. That is her salary. So is her husband making any money? Right. So like just on her salary alone, her net worth should be higher.

Nilla: Mm Mm hmm. Yeah. But only 18,000, you know.

Duds: you live in a shoebox? mean...

Nilla: Good question.

Duds: Well, you would think, I mean, does she, she has to live somewhere, right? She rents, she rents everything. She rents her car. She rents her house. She doesn't have any investments.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Right. Well, probably, right. Probably rents it all to the business or, ⁓ yeah, or something like that. So it was probably rented. Yeah.

Duds: I don't believe in it. Buys properties that are worth zero dollars.

Nilla: She lives actually where she works. Yeah, that too.

Duds: I mean, how do you own a property? Yeah. How do you own properties that are worth $0? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Bright: Yeah, and investments count in your net worth,

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Well, 18, 18,000.

Bright: Only if they're leased out to your business, that's worth less.

Duds: I mean, I your net worth is zero dollars if you, if you don't want to pay taxes on things. Yeah.

Nilla: Just let me back up, interesting.

Duds: Because if your property is $0, you're paying zero in taxes. It really doesn't give you any benefit to have a value on your house of, say, a million dollars, other than the government taxes you on it. If I could, I would report my value on my property, $0. Because who cares?

Bright: Alright. That's right. Well now.

Nilla: Exactly.

Bright: Well, or you you. Of Now you can, you can borrow against it. Right. So that's something like Joe Biden got. I don't want to say busted. That's not the right word, but like exposed. He, he had this property, one of his houses, and he had borrowed against it like 16 times. He just kept taking out these loans against his property. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, if you could figure all that out, I guess.

Nilla: Yeah. Sure.

Duds: We could.

Nilla: Yeah, I think it busted, I mean. That should be illegal right there. ⁓ yeah.

Bright: But then you take that money and you put it into other things that earn you more money and I don't know.

Nilla: I don't know. Well, yeah, I guess so. I was gonna say, why would you need to borrow against it, guess? yeah. But you just end up owing more and more and more. Do you not have the money? Because if you haven't, then why do you? I mean, kinda.

Duds: Looks like a home equity loan.

Bright: Well right, but 16 times?

Duds: lot of people do that. Like 16 mortgages? What do mean?

Bright: No, I guess like, like he loans and, and he locks and stuff like that. Well, that's the thing. Like normal people, they might take out a he loan or a he lock to do improvements to the house, but then it takes them years to pay it back. Like it becomes this whole financial burden, but for them, it doesn't, they take the money and then they, you know, and plus they have these houses that are valued at $30 million.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing is, if you, yeah, if you never pay it back, guess it doesn't matter, right?

Duds: Well, the other thing, if you're, if the home you're in is appreciating a higher rate than the loan you're taking out, then you can just keep rolling it into a new loan. Right. I mean, think about how real estate has gone up in the last five years. You know, if you had a million dollar property that you had a, you know, say $500,000 loan out on, and then now that property is worth

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Great.

Bright: Yeah?

Duds: three million, well, you can take out another million dollars, you know, and still be at that same ratio. You know, so as the assets increase in value, you can just start taking more and collateralizing that, taking the money out and invested in somewhere else.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: And again, but that's a loan. don't actually make the money. That's the thing on, you know, and why property taxes. Right.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Well, you're arbitraging, right? You'd taken the money out to invest it in other properties or things like that. And then you're paying, you're getting tax deductions on the interest you're paying on the loans, you know, and you can also do depreciations and, know, there's a whole bunch of tricks you can play, you know, with the IRS and, and real estate for sure.

Nilla: Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: Right. Yeah. Well, that's exactly it.

Nilla: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Loopholes. Yeah. True.

Bright: Yeah, there's something to be said about the tax code. You know, it really just needs to be simple.

Duds: Real estate is so there's a lot to it too. And like you could make a lot of money doing it. That's how, you know, Donald Trump made all his money doing real estate. Tax codes are pretty, pretty favorable to, to real estate holders. So you just market zero and don't pay any taxes. Elon Omar.

Nilla: Yeah. Bye bye.

Bright: Sure. Yep. Absolutely.

Nilla: Yeah. Doesn't that McDonald's made their money?

Bright: Yeah. All right, last.

Nilla: Like what's the deal with that?

Duds: Calling you out on that one

Bright: ⁓ what? Right. Last topic. Last topic, at least last major topic. ⁓ and this is kind of a callback to a previous episode. ⁓ as of today, Warner Brothers discovery shareholders have officially approved the company's acquisition by. Do you remember? Can you remember the no, it was Netflix. Paramount.

Duds: Do it, right?

Bright: Paramount. So when we, when we covered it, ⁓ and one of our earlier episodes, was Netflix. And eventually Paramount was able to do a hostile takeover more or less of Warner Brothers discovery and Netflix eventually bowed out. They were like, it's too much money. We're not doing it anymore. I know. Right. So, ⁓ so today they officially, ⁓ approved the company's acquisition, a deal valued at 111.

Nilla: Mm-hmm. Okay.

Duds: That's right.

Nilla: Yes.

Duds: That's why I haven't shown up on my Netflix.

Bright: billion dollars and it'll pay it all cash deal of $31 per share, which is a little bit different than the Netflix. Yeah, I know the Netflix deal paid some money. ⁓ Whatever it was like $25 per share plus Netflix stock, which I mean to me sounds like a pretty good deal. Like I'd take Netflix stock, but I guess people really just want.

Duds: Yeah, that's a lot of briefcases.

Nilla: No. Well, it show me the money.

Duds: Yeah, so you can buy the Bitcoin.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, so now

Duds: Show me the Bitcoin.

Nilla: I'm just going to take out a loan against my house and buy some Bitcoin.

Duds: That's not the worst idea in the world.

Bright: Listen to this though. Here are some of the.

Nilla: Douglas is you gave me an idea.

Bright: If right, here are some of the things now that are being consolidated. Harry Potter, the DC universe, game of Thrones, mission, impossible, Star Trek. All of those are, are moving essentially from the WB to Paramount, which also is like, I like 30.

Duds: How many Mission Impossibles are there?

Nilla: As many our Fast and Furious as there are.

Duds: ⁓ my gosh, it's crazy.

Bright: Yeah. Here's something that's relevant. CNN and CBS News also part of the deal. So what happens to CNN?

Nilla: Tim? Mmm. There's my bite, man. Pretty much.

Duds: cares.

Bright: You know, yeah, who cares? Right. So.

Duds: I can't believe anybody actually watches that crap.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Bright: We'll We'll see.

Duds: I only ever just see it on airports, you know, and that's the only place.

Bright: That's it. Why do all the airports show CNN?

Duds: I don't know. Although I did start to see Fox and some of them. Yeah. I think people used to view it as like actual news. it's CNN. It's like official news. But then once you get biased into news reporting, people aren't going to watch it.

Bright: I don't know. Because they used to be fair and unbiased. That's why.

Nilla: Yeah, right Yeah. Right.

Bright: For sure. Yep.

Duds: I feel like I have to sneeze.

Bright: All right. Mute yourself. I do have one more story. I do have a local on the loose story here. This is also a quick one. ⁓ did you guys see, have you guys been following the updates on the armory?

Nilla: or do it.

Duds: You mute yourself.

Nilla: You No, not really.

Duds: Mm-mm.

Bright: ⁓ looks like it's going to be a data center. Yeah. You know,

Nilla: ⁓ did you turn it on? I did hear something about it.

Duds: I think, didn't we already talk about that?

Bright: Well, we did, but there was a lot of pushback, but people didn't want it to be a data center. So it looked like maybe like, right. Well, the St. Louis, St. Louis board of public service officially approved a conditional use permit for the project to be a data center. So they've got a couple of things.

Nilla: Well, maybe.

Duds: I think that was in the works for months.

Nilla: I'm sure.

Duds: Well, nobody wants the data centers till they can't get on them. So the data is not there.

Nilla: Exactly. Does that mean we're going to get like 6G now or something or what?

Bright: I doubt it.

Duds: Why don't they just build all the data centers in Antarctica?

Nilla: Come on, somebody's gonna be working on that for now. Yeah, that'd be cool.

Bright: Well, they want to, they want to move them to space. Elon Musk and, ⁓ the Virgin Voyage has got, they all want to do it in space now.

Nilla: Mr.

Duds: Well, see, I saw an article that was saying that that might not be a viable thing to do.

Nilla: Because of Dino specifically.

Bright: Yeah. Well, because of the energy to get them up there, I guess that was the biggest thing. Like actually once they're up there, it'd be okay. It's, getting them up there.

Duds: ⁓ no, I didn't read it.

Nilla: Yeah. Well, China wants to-

Duds: That was the problem.

Nilla: Right. China wants to build solar panels all the way around the whole moon and use that to power the world.

Bright: That would be amazing, ⁓ a halo, right?

Duds: Get a big extension cord.

Nilla: I mean, basically, Well, I don't know if it would be recorded, but then they also. ⁓

Bright: Yeah, better exception.

Duds: You

Bright: If, if we had to build a big outlet, if we had to build a big outlet for an extension core, where do you put it? I think you have to put it in Antarctica, right? You know, space balls, space balls too, it's coming out. Yeah. I, you know, it's real. think they just released the first trailer or something. Oh, he's like, gotta be, I think he's 99, almost a hundred.

Duds: We're wireless now. space balls it's like a big old space balls outlet the vacuum cleaner

Nilla: Yeah. ⁓

Duds: ⁓ huh.

Nilla: I thought I heard something about this, possibly is it real?

Duds: Yeah, Mel Brooks is still alive, you know that?

Nilla: It's true.

Duds: He, yeah, I think he's almost a hundred years old. That's crazy.

Bright: Yeah. Did you watch any of that history of the world part two?

Nilla: Wow.

Bright: Nope. Judging by the silence. No. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was okay. I don't know that I finished it, but.

Nilla: No, move that way. Let the shorts be with you.

Duds: No, I've actually been watching. I've been watching the. What is it called? It's on Netflix. It's like American Frontiersman or something like that. Have you seen that?

Bright: I have heard of it, but I have not seen it. No.

Duds: I've been watching the first episode. It's got like Daniel Boone in it.

Nilla: Yellowstone? He's alive still?

Duds: Have you heard about this? Yeah.

Bright: Is it good?

Duds: But it was, yeah, it's really good. was talking about, so I've only watched the first episode. I think it's about different people, ⁓ that are like big in American frontiers, like why they were important. The first, yeah, the first episode is about Daniel Boone and how he was, do you even know anything about him?

Nilla: NUTS SAUCE

Bright: Okay. Tiny apple seed, of course.

Nilla: Johnny Appleseed.

Bright: Right.

Nilla: think he wore like a, cap, a, what was it? Goonskin, yeah.

Bright: I mean...

Duds: Coonskin Cap. So.

Bright: Was he the one in the Alamo or was that the other guy?

Duds: No, that was Sam Houston, I think, ⁓ was in the Alamo, right? So Daniel Boone, was the Texas, that was like the Texas Revolutionary War that you're talking about, the Alamo. Daniel Boone was a revolutionary war. Well, do you? Do you really?

Bright: Now on a-

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: There's another one. I don't know. Who's the other?

Nilla: I don't know, but maybe it was somebody else. Yeah, sure sure.

Bright: I mean, I know what the Alamo is.

Duds: Daniel Boone was American Revolutionary War.

Bright: Let's see, Daniel Boone did not die at the Alamo. ⁓ I'm thinking of Davy Crockett.

Nilla: Anyways. ⁓ yeah, there you go.

Duds: ⁓ yeah. Totally different guy.

Nilla: We also wore the coonskin cap, didn't we? Or was it a pot or something or a pan?

Duds: Yeah, I think so. But two. Now that was Johnny Appleseed, right?

Nilla: Damn it, was.

Bright: All right, hold on. Yeah, I know that all of them run together. Daniel Boone lived to the age of 85.

Nilla: Hahaha

Duds: Yeah. So he, so he started a place called Boones Berg or Boonesboro or something like it was Boonesboro in Kentucky, which was like the American Western frontier back in the 17 seventies. Right. So everything like a West of the Appalachian mountains was considered the frontier essentially. And he started up his own little Fort colony.

Nilla: Wow, back then?

Bright: Died in 1820.

Nilla: Mm.

Bright: Right.

Duds: called Boonesboro and was kind of like having small wars with the Shawnee Indians that were living around there. And then he got word that the colonies had declared war against England. So he was like on the frontier and got this paper. It was like, ⁓ yeah, here's our declaration of independence, Daniel Boone. You your fort is like on the leading edge of the West. So the British actually came in and got with the Indians and started

Nilla: Mmm. Mmm.

Bright: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Duds: arming them with rifles to fight the frontiers men, Daniel Boone and others like him, to like try and push the Americans out of the West. then they were going to start attacking the colonial army from the West too. It was like, man, I didn't know anything about this.

Nilla: Hmm. Wow, that's pretty crazy.

Bright: Well, that's the thing, when you dive into like this history, there's so much more, like you just learn, you know, the first chapter essentially, or whatever in school. And then you realize there's all these layers. Listen to some of these stats I've got. So.

Duds: Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Well, he is like his daughter got captured by Indians and then he got captured by Indians. He got, he escaped from the Indians and got back. He lived a crazy life.

Bright: Many people confuse Daniel Boone with Davy Crockett. Davy Crockett did die at the Alamo on March 6th, 1836. Daniel Boone died in 1820, but Davy Crockett is often mistaken for Boone because they both wore coonskin caps and they were both frontiersmen. Yes. So that makes sense. Daniel Boone is famous for exploring Kentucky.

Duds: Nailed it.

Bright: clearing the Wilderness Road and founding Boonesboro, Kentucky. And he was originally buried in Missouri. Yeah. But later eventually his remains were moved to Frankfurt Cemetery in Frankfurt, Kentucky. So how about that? Missouri connection. Yeah, Missouri connection. All right, well speak.

Nilla: Missouri.

Duds: Buried in Missouri,

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah. When did Missouri become a state like the 18 thirties or something like that.

Bright: A I think like 1836 eight. Yeah.

Duds: Something like that.

Bright: Here, can I look that up real quick?

Duds: So wouldn't he have been dead by then? Why would he?

Nilla: Actually, he died in 1836. Didn't you say that or something?

Bright: Whoa. I said 36, no, was 1821. 1821 is when Missouri, we should know that.

Duds: I thought you said it died in 1820.

Nilla: Okay, that was the other one. 1821 is when Missouri became a state? Oh, okay.

Bright: Yeah. You know, 1821. ⁓

Duds: So he died in Missouri shortly after it became a state, huh?

Nilla: Hmm. Yeah.

Bright: He was buried in Missouri. didn't say he died in Missouri. And you could have been buried here. You could have been buried here before it became a state. I don't know. He had 10 kids. Maybe one of his kids lived here. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how many of them survived that long, but.

Nilla: Well, right. That's true. But then why would you have been here? don't know why. Like why? Yeah, but anyways.

Duds: Or whatever. I mean, figure if what they do, they, they transport them here. Why? Why would they bring them here?

Nilla: One of them are okay, one out ten. makes sense.

Duds: So they wanted to put them on a wagon and put them on a six month wagon train ride to Missouri from Kentucky.

Nilla: six month like Oregon trail, you know.

Bright: Why not? Why not? All right. Well, speaking of TV shows, I wanted to talk about a couple of them and we're running short on time. ⁓ I just wanted to mention to you duds casually. So I'm one episode away from finishing the end of dark matter. I know we talked about this on the last couple of pods. We both read that book. ⁓ the TV show is pretty good. ⁓ it's on Apple TV follows the, do like it and they're coming back with season two. So I'm fit. I'm assuming season one.

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Duds: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you like it,

Bright: Is going to wrap up where the book wraps up and then we'll move on to season two, which, which comes out in August. So highly recommend it. There you go. And then you can knock out, ⁓ that I don't know. I don't know, but right. Just yeah. Watch. There you go. There you go. All right. ⁓ I started euphoria season three. I don't know if anybody watched euphoria at all, but

Duds: So maybe I'll wait to get Apple TV till then. Did they release it all at once? They were okay. Yeah. Then I can see the two and I got some other shows on Apple TV. I want to watch too.

Bright: Not so.

Duds: What's that about?

Nilla: No. Well, Cindy 20S. We've talked about it or he has. I didn't listen, but.

Bright: Swidney Sweeney. No, didn't we? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Well, we, we watched the first episode, ⁓ but we did finish the other one that we finished was DTF St. Louis. Did you watch that Nilla? All right. We all watched it. I, I liked it. It was pretty good. It was weird. Definitely weird.

Duds: That's what you're doing. That's what you're watching.

Nilla: Yes. Yeah, finished it, yeah.

Duds: ⁓ yeah, we've finished that too.

Nilla: It was weird.

Duds: Nah.

Nilla: I mean, kind of weird, it was also like, kind of like, I don't know, not as eventful as like, but what.

Duds: Bouta dicks. But it decks.

Bright: Lot of dicks. Yes. Yes, there were. Yeah. I would agree. It wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like a thriller, right? This was a slow burn. You ask a lot of questions. They, they did it out of order on purpose. You know, I enjoyed it.

Nilla: ⁓ yeah, that too. I don't know. It was all right. It was nothing crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: I didn't think it was that good.

Nilla: Like I think that like, I mean, both the characters, what's his name? David Bateman and David Harbour.

Bright: David Harbor, yeah.

Duds: Jason Bateman.

Nilla: Not David Bateman. Yeah, I was like, it's not David. Like they were just both weird in the show. Like it doesn't even seem like real life, though. It's like this doesn't mean happen. I mean, I guess it could, but like it just.

Bright: Jason, Jason Bateman. Yes.

Duds: Right. Nobody acts like that.

Bright: I mean, dancing around in their underwear, trying to get aroused. Like that last episode, man, it was, it was messed up for sure.

Nilla: I don't know. Yeah.

Duds: Well, was like, was it gay or not? Like, seemed like he was probably gay.

Nilla: Not really, but like one dude, obviously, David Harbor was maybe possibly semi ⁓ by, but yet did. Exactly. link link below. ⁓ So anyways, we also watched Rooster, I think it's called. Not bad, I think that was better actually than DTF really St. Louis, but.

Duds: That's what I thought. I don't know.

Bright: Yeah. Justalittlebittgay.com, that's all I gotta say.

Duds: Okay.

Bright: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. We haven't started that yet, but yeah. Yeah. And that's got, ⁓ that's got what's his name in it, right? Steve Corral. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we liked, ⁓ that four seasons that he was in. I think that was on Netflix and that's coming out for season two soon, but he's not in it. I'm assuming. he's spoiler alert. Yeah. He's dead. Yeah. Spoiler alert. ⁓ and then maybe to wrap things up here.

Duds: ⁓ really? Steve Carell.

Nilla: Yeah, Steve Carell. it's kind of funny. It's nothing crazy. Yeah, yeah, actually, that's coming back. Yeah. ⁓ yeah, did he die?

Bright: Um, Bogart in the conversation a little bit, uh, recursion duds. You, you said you finished it.

Duds: Yeah, I think I liked it. Yeah, it was good. There was a couple parts of the story where I was kind of like, I don't think this girl would actually like, she's like not wanting to cooperate and all of sudden she's like in it, you know? it was like the story, some of the writing I didn't think was like great, but overall I thought the story was pretty good. I liked it.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. Like the story is pretty crazy. And then it kind of takes this turn from what. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: It was kind of technical though, like, and like how they were, what they were doing. And it was a little tough to follow. Like you really had to pay attention. Like what was going on? Like what timeline you're on, which life are you in?

Bright: ⁓ yeah, you did. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, like, you know, there's some

Nilla: Mm-hmm.

Bright: Yes, a hundred percent. And they're supposedly making a Netflix movie movie. And I'm like, how do they do this? Because it gets complicated. Yeah. And supposedly it's been in development since like 2019. So.

Nilla: Yeah, I got you.

Duds: That would be tough. It kind of reminded me of a few. What movies were you saying it reminded you of? Because I had a couple in mind.

Bright: ⁓ I said the S was it the sixth day, not the sixth day or that Arnold Schwarzenegger one, ⁓ with a cloning. Is that the sixth day? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where they do the different memories, you know, and

Duds: ⁓ the sixth day. That was the sixth day, I think. Yep. So I was actually thinking it was similar in my mind to, ⁓ like the, well, it started out like minority report when the whole DARPA thing started handling, ⁓ happening. So I was like, man, that's a lot like minority report, you know, how they're traveling and doing that kind of stuff.

Nilla: Hmm. Tinder Stellar. Hmm.

Duds: I was wondering where the story was going to go. And then it kind of got into more of a groundhog day, ⁓ type of, ⁓ effects or, ⁓ what's the other one, the edge of tomorrow. Did you watch that one with Tom Cruise? That, that one, I think was a lot like it where they kept trying to go back and make that that one day they had to get that one day. Perfect. You know, like groundhog day or edge of tomorrow. And that I think is the best.

Bright: Yeah. Yep. Right. Oh, that's a great movie. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yep.

Nilla: Hmm ⁓

Duds: like movie to relate it to, like as far as the story was. But overall, I think it was pretty, it was interesting. It was a pretty cool concept. So I thought it was good.

Bright: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. I'm looking for a new book. just finished. None of this is true. And I didn't really like it, but it was. I know. ⁓ yeah. You got to retext it to me. I got to go look at them because yeah, I'm on the hunt for another one. Maybe I'll go back in our chat history and take a look. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. ⁓ That's right.

Nilla: .

Duds: I recommended those books to you. You'll get you get hooked on some of those. Those are good. We'll talk about those next time in our book club.

Nilla: Thank you.

Bright: That's right. There you go. All right. What else do you guys have? Anything else? I don't know.

Duds: Greg, you listen to books too? No, he's not in that. You don't like books?

Bright: Does your wife?

Nilla: No, she doesn't listen to me. just watches lots of stuff that could have been a book or about a book maybe sometimes. no. Drew Grime, yeah, a lot of that. I watch more like Treasure. No. Not really necessarily that much music at home.

Bright: No. Right, well, all the true crime. Yeah. Right, Yep. Yep.

Duds: Do you listen to podcasts, Craig, or you just listen to music?

Bright: What do you listen to when you're at work? Music. Yeah. You got it. Right. Right.

Nilla: Music. I mean, but everybody listens to it kind of like the guy beside me and my boss kind of. I just play serious through the computer.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was the big help. You know, when I'm traveling, you know, I, listened to that Joe Rogan podcast, you know, they're tough. They're three hours long, but when I'm on a plane, perfect.

Duds: ⁓ you just have to play through the computer.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Yes, your drive to work Greg's probably only what like five minutes. Maybe 10. It's hard to really get, it's hard to really get into anything, you know.

Nilla: Maybe 10. Yeah. Depends.

Bright: If yeah, on a, on a rainy day. Yeah.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah. And at work, I'm constantly on the phone almost, you know, so I can't really listen to stuff for extended periods of time. Yeah.

Duds: Sometimes, yeah, you get distracted. My ride to work is like 20 minutes and it's like, okay, that's like a decent amount of time. I can kind of get into part of a book. So do that twice a day, get like 40 minutes.

Nilla: Little bit more. Yeah.

Bright: Yeah, when I'm picking up the kids, yeah, when I'm picking up the kids sometimes, and sometimes I'll debate like, do I leave it on on the drive home after I picked them up? ⁓ and I was so close to finishing this book the other day. I decided to do it. And of course it got a little adultish, you know? Yeah. A little dicey. ⁓ no. Frankie, Frankie listens because he'll ask me that they said in the book, they said poo poo.

Duds: Mm-hmm. Little dicey. It takes me, it probably takes me two weeks to get through a book.

Nilla: They probably weren't even listening though, they have no idea what was going on. Oh, she's listening.

Bright: And, and Frankie, Frankie was like, why did they just say poo poo? ⁓ no, not in the car. He just sits there in, you know, I think I've told you before. He always wants to listen to story of the year. Both my kids, when we're in the car, they're like turn on story of the year. So it is funny, but sometimes. Yep.

Nilla: He doesn't have his headphones on, he's not doing anything like on his iPad or nothing. Not right then, I guess, on the right home. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. All the time, that's it, that's only thing.

Duds: Now you're gonna listen to this book. I always tell the kids I'm to put Bitcoin on, like Bitcoin podcasts or something, or books about Bitcoin. They're like, no.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. There you go. ⁓ I just spilled my trash can underneath the desk. Protein protein shakes and beer. All right. Well, I think we're at time unless you guys had anything else. Nope.

Nilla: Put him to sleep. Hmm What's in it?

Duds: ⁓ great. Got to clean up the studio. Clean up the studio.

Nilla: Yeah.

Duds: What do think of the Bitcoin price? $78,000?

Bright: ⁓ it's good for Nilla because he bought in, ⁓ bought in $10,000 ago. You know, guess it's good for us, but when I bought in at one ⁓ two, I'm still playing catch up.

Nilla: Mmm, yeah, that's good.

Duds: Nice.

Nilla: Oh yeah. I think I bought it at 71 ish, what's your average though? You know, 80?

Duds: Hey, I bought some at like $126.

Bright: I know you bought some of the high. ⁓

Duds: My average now is like 85.

Nilla: I don't know. Yeah.

Bright: That's pretty good. Yeah. I, you know, when I bought it in the first time I bought in probably somewhere around the price that it is now, you know, and then my other big purchase was at one ⁓ two. So, ⁓ you know, my average price is probably somewhere around 90.

Nilla: I knew when it was down this, when it was at 60, so I bought it at like 71 and then it went down, it was like 63, you know, or something like that. And I was like, the whole time it was 63-ish, I was like, man, I should buy more right now, basically. And then I did, and I was like, well, it's not too late, you know, and then it was 67 and then it was like, you know, 70. And I was like, well, it's not too late, but then it never happened.

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: I'm never gonna do it. It's still not too late.

Bright: Yep.

Nilla: I mean, no, not really.

Bright: It's just so hard to, it's so hard to time it. You know, when it went up to 126 and then it dropped down to 102, I'm like, I'm never going to get it lower than this. I gotta, I gotta buy.

Duds: The best thing to do is to just buy some regular schedule.

Nilla: Yeah.

Bright: Yeah. Well, that's I do. I buy some every, every week I buy some.

Nilla: Casually. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Yep. And just let it go that way. You're going, you know, with however it goes and never sell it. You don't have to sell it. Not for a while. Look at it long-term and

Bright: Yep. Right. Yep. Yep. That's right. You keep it for a long time. You should be good. That's how I feel about, that's how I feel about my Tesla stock too. You know, it is volatile, but when you look at it, when you look at it over the last five years, it's yeah, recently it has been less.

Nilla: Yeah. Pretty much, right, like 20 years.

Duds: ⁓ you're going to be real good.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah. I've less volatile recently.

Duds: See you. The funny thing is though, is any stock, yeah, it's pretty volatile and can, is going to shoot up or whatever. But Bitcoin is the only thing that nobody, we've never had anything like Bitcoin before. So we don't even know what's going to happen when it goes through. At some point, the supply and demand is going to, there's going to be some kind of inflection where the supply is going to dry up and that demand is going to increase.

Bright: Right, sure.

Duds: And then what happens because they can't issue more Bitcoin. know, now people can go to paper wrap Bitcoin, like they can go to ETFs and things like that. Right. But that's still, it's going to, it's going to eventually drive the prices up because the demand is still going to be there.

Bright: The biggest, the biggest thing with right, right. The biggest thing though with, with Bitcoin.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

Bright: But Bitcoin is still based on consumer confidence. It's the only thing that's like, I guess not the only thing, but like it's, it's based on consumer confidence. If, if people decide that Bitcoin is not worth anything, that it'll just tank like stock prices are at least. You know, well, to an extent, but it is backed by revenue and a beta and EBITDA and all that other stuff with, with companies. They can come in and.

Duds: That's how those are too. Yeah, but they're two different things. Like you got, you're talking about a company stock that is backed by there's some assets and revenue and all that. And then you're talking about a currency, you know, so there is no, there's no, you know, tangible value of Bitcoin just by itself, but what it, what it is, what it represents is the currency and that's what makes it valuable.

Bright: I- right, I understand that. Right. Right. Yeah. Sure. No, no, no. Yeah. But essentially isn't, isn't stock in and of itself, just a currency also like Bitcoin that has a limited, they can always make more of it. That's the, that's the only thing like with Bitcoin it's, it's truly capped, but with a stock price, they can, they can just split it. They could, know, they could do all kinds of stuff to have more stock.

Duds: Mm-hmm. It is but it's ⁓ it's a limited Yeah, technically the money. Yeah, technically the money is the most used ⁓ item that most use traded item is your money, whatever that item is. So if it happens to be Bitcoin or us dollars or sheep, whatever they are, whatever is the most traded commodity is the money. Right. So right now the money of the world is basically us dollars, right? Because of that.

Bright: cheap.

Nilla: Yeah. No. Yeah.

Duds: So yeah, stocks are, you could call stocks money, but they're not as fungible, right? Because they're harder, it's harder to go trade your Tesla stock for $500 than it is to go take your $500 and, you know, go use that somewhere else, right? You don't have to convert it, right? You don't have to convert it, right? Because it's not, right now it's not the money, right?

Bright: Of Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one, have to use a third, you have to use a third party. Yeah. And I had to do that with Bitcoin currently too, you know.

Nilla: But eventually, eventually you'll buy stock with Bitcoin. So Bitcoin or so stock will be worth whatever amount of Bitcoin it is.

Bright: Right. Well. That's possible. Possible. All right. Well, we can't go down. We can't go down this rabbit hole a hundred percent. We can need a whole nother podcast just on Bitcoin. So yeah, but you know, the market overall has been doing better lately, but yes. Yeah. I want to see 150.

Nilla: Only time will tell. Nah, that's true. Yeah.

Duds: I do like seeing the price go up though, it's fun.

Nilla: Yeah, I want to see like 90, you know, or something, but still, yeah. Exactly.

Duds: Yeah, but the thing is you got to be careful what you wish for because it's going to go up and then it's going to come crashing down again. It's going to go up. It's going to come crashing down. It's going to be volatile, you know, for a period of time.

Nilla: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it did.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing though. If it goes up 50 % and comes down 30 % and goes up 50 % and comes down 20%, you know, in general, that's the way that it works. And, you know, you, you know, if you're in it for the long haul, it doesn't matter. But, All right.

Nilla: I'm okay. Right, exactly. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Yeah, hopefully. Right. Yeah, exactly.

Duds: I think we're going to go through quite a spike here in the next year or so.

Nilla: Alright.

Bright: Well, we still got three more years of Trump and let's just end this Iran war in a good way, which I think will happen. ⁓ economy will boom, see what happens in the midterms.

Nilla: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, hope so. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: release the Epstein files. I we forget about all that.

Bright: You never know. Release the Epstein miles. Yeah. and the love is just like, I'm out. Screw it. You guys are taking too long. All right. Well, I'm hitting, I'm hitting stop as we speak. All right. I bet you his battery died.

Duds: Houdini. And I'm gone. Alright. Probably.