NFNP 2x36 | Death Is Everywhere: Election Fallout, AI Workers & Blues Chaos

Bright: All right, duds. Good to see ya. Yeah. In person. In person. I mean, first time doing a live in person NFMP pod. It's definitely a little bit different. You said it would be different, but now you're nervous? no. We're giving it a go. we've got our laptops set up. We are in person. What we're gonna have to do though is not look at each other. we're not supposed to learn each other. I don't think so. That's what's weird about this, because otherwise our eyes are gonna be because we're slightly off center.

Duds: All right, Judge. Good to see ya. Yeah, in person. In person. first time doing a live in person NFMP pod. It's definitely a little bit different. You said it would be different, but now I'm nervous. Now you're nervous. no. We're giving it a go. we've got our laptop set up. We are in person, but we're gonna have to do those, not look at each other. we're not supposed to look at each other. I don't think so. That's what's weird about this, because otherwise our eyes are gonna be 'cause we're slightly off center.

Bright: So I don't know what the best option is. We're gonna figure this out as we go along, I I suppose. Yeah, yeah. all right, well let's just jump right into it, huh? And then we'll see how it it works out. Hopefully we don't have any tech issues. but I thought since we're in the middle of the blues game, we'd talk blues. Sounds good. All right. So I don't know what happened. right when we got down here and set up and getting ready to record, we were down. I think we had made it four two

Duds: So I don't know what the best option is. We're gonna figure this out as we go along. Yeah, I think it'll be fine. Yeah, yeah. all right, let's just jump right into it, huh? And then we'll see how it it it works out. Hopefully we don't have any tech issues. but I thought since we're in the middle of the blues game, we talked blues. Sounds good. All right. So I don't know what happened. right when we got down here and set up and getting ready to record, we were down. I think we've made it four two.

Bright: And I was like, but there's only six minutes left. We gotta score two goals in the next six minutes. We're setting up our in person situation. And I turned mics we got. Yeah, yeah, the new mics. They're great, but y we had to set all that stuff up. We've never done it before, so we had to make sure we knew what we're doing. And I turned back around and it's four four, holy hell, what happened?

Duds: I was like, but there's only six minutes left. We got to score two goals in the next six minutes. We're setting up our in-person situation. Yeah. yeah. The new mics. They're great. But we had to set all that stuff up. We've never done it before. So we had to make sure we knew what we're doing. And I turned back around and it's 4-4. Like, holy hell, what happened? They scored. They scored. Scored twice. We had to rewind it. Yeah, I think we had two goals in like twenty seconds. And now we're short handed. and it looks like we're gonna head into overtime here. Hopefully. Don't don't jinx it. Got ten seconds here. Let's at least get one point out of this.

Bright: Scored. Yeah. I think we had two goals in twenty seconds. And now we're short handed. and it looks like we're gonna head into overtime here. Yeah. Don't jinx it. I know. Let's at least get one point out of this. Good defense there.

Duds: my gosh. They're trying to know they came close. They're trying not to go to overtime. They came close. So it looks like we're headed into overtime. And we we need a point. A win would be even better because we're not doing all that great.

Bright: They man, they came close. They came close. So it looks like we're headed into overtime and we we need a point. A win would be even better 'cause we're not doing all that great.

Duds: I saw that. I looked that up earlier today. What are they So coming into the game, I think we were seven, seven, one. Yeah, I was thinking like about five hundred. So five five hundred coming into this game. We've just been a little inconsistent. the last five games we had a

Bright: So coming into the game, I think we were seven, seven, and one. Yeah. So five five hundred coming into this game. We've just been a little inconsistent. the last five games, we had a four loss to Carolina, a two loss to Montreal, so back to back games, no goals, never good. And they were both at home. I know. Then we went into Boston. No no no. We were still at home. We beat Boston at home four to one.

Duds: 4-0 loss to Carolina, a 2-0 loss to Montreal. So back to back games, no goals. Never good. And they were both at home. No. I know. Then we went into Boston. No, no, no. We were still at home. We beat Boston at home four to one. so that was good. And then we won on Halloween night against Detroit. And then lost against the Rangers, who were not a great team, three to one in New York. And for whatever reason, we're not good.

Bright: so that was good. And then we won on Halloween night against Detroit and then lost against the Rangers, who were not a great team, three to one in New York. And for whatever reason we're not good at Madison Square Garden. So

Duds: Madison Square Garden. So So give me a a little rundown because I don't really follow the blues all that much. how's the team gonna look this year? Well, I think people were expecting better. I think that's the whole point, right? It's still pretty early. Yeah, it's still early in the season. Five hundred to start. It's actually better than where we were at last year. I think our team has improved with some of the new guys we brought in. Nick Tavish seems to be rocking and rolling, I think. scoring lots of goals. So

Bright: Well, I think people were expecting better. I think that's the whole point, right? Yeah, it's still early in the season, five hundred to start. It's actually better than where we were at last year. I think our team has improved with some of the new guys we brought in. McTavish seems to be rocking and rolling, I think. scoring lots of goals. So

Duds: And that's that's his son, that's McTavish's son. It's not Craig McTavish. Is it

Bright: so that's pretty good. That's It's not Craig McTavish.

Duds: completely different? And it's funny because I thought it was maybe a relative. And not a super common name. No, you wouldn't think so. It's one of my favorite trivia questions is who was the last player in the NHL to not wear a helmet? And the answer is Craig McTavish.

Bright: Completely different McTavish and it's funny because I thought it was maybe a relative and that's a super common name. No, you wouldn't think so. It's one of my favorite trivia questions is who was the last player in the NHL to not wear a helmet? And the answer is Craig McTavish, and he ended his career with the Saint Louis Blues. Yeah, it would have been like in the nineties. yeah, yeah, like early nineties, maybe. I mean I remember it.

Duds: And he ended his career with the St. Louis Blues. Yeah, it have been in the nineties, right? yeah, yeah. early nineties maybe. I remember I remember him too. I remember him playing without a helmet and being the only guy out there. And now it's it's people that don't wear the face shield. Right, so that's a requirement now. Yes, requirement now. the only people that don't wear one is if you were grandfathered in. So I know there's only a few people left in the league. One of them is Ryan O'Reilly, who of course

Bright: Yeah, out there, And now it's it's people that don't wear the face shield. That's a requirement. That's a requirement now. the only people that don't wear one is if you were grandfathered in. So I know there's only a few people left in the league, and one of is Ryan O'Reilly, who of course used to be on the blues when we won that Stanley Cup in twenty nineteen. Now he plays for Nashville.

Duds: used to be on the blues, when we won that Stanley Cup in twenty nineteen. Now he plays for Nashville. So I get the helmet thing, but like what does the face shield? Does that really prevent a lot of injuries? Like eye injuries or what? Yeah, I think that's primarily what they're looking for, eye injuries, stuff like that. And then it's it's going to just help him keep the stick from people's eyes. Yes. A hundred percent. Yes. It still seems like it go right underneath it though. And it can and it actually happened in this game earlier. and if you remember even in the Stanley Cup it was

Bright: Yeah, I think that's primarily what they're looking for, eye injuries, stuff like that. And then it's it's going to yes, a hundred percent. Yes. And it can, and it actually happened in this game earlier. and if you remember, even in the Stanley Cup, it was the big defenseman for Boston. His name is escaping me right now. But what happens is somebody shoots the puck in or passes the puck in and it rides up the stick and right into the guy's face.

Duds: the big defenseman for Boston. His name is escaping me right now. But what happens is somebody shoots the puck in or passes the puck in and it rides up the stick and right into the guy's face. Yeah. And the face shield isn't gonna help you not gonna do it. When that happens. And that's that's exactly what happened in this game. so so kind of interesting you say that. But now they're starting to do the neck guards. gosh. And they're not required.

Bright: And the face shield isn't gonna help you when when that happens. And that's that's exactly what happened in this game. so so kind of interesting that you say that. But now they're starting to do the neck guards, and they're not required. But you remember when that do you remember when that guy died? yeah. Over over in England? Yes. So that was nasty. Yeah, it was of course, and he died. I mean, I was talking to Nilla actually the other day, and we were

Duds: But you remember when that maybe there will be though. Do remember when that guy died? yeah. Over over in England. Yes. So that was nasty. Yeah. Of course they died. I mean, was talking to Nilla actually the other day, and we were talking about that actually. I don't know how it got brought up. But just

Bright: Talking about that actually. I don't know how it got brought up. But

Duds: a crazy, like unfortunate accident. Yeah, I mean when you go back and you watch the video, it looked somewhat intentional.

Bright: Yeah, when you go back and you watch the video, it looks somewhat intentional. Like the the guy who was a he was a loon, a little bit of a loon, knowing to be that way in the league, right? And an enforcer. And he like threw his leg up trying to stop this guy going into the zone. And the kid, he was pretty young. there you go. Jersey just scored to win it in overtime, so five four loss.

Duds: the the guy who was a You would hope not. He was a loon, a little bit of a loon, known to be that way in the league, right? And an enforcer. And he like threw his leg up trying to stop this guy going into the zone. And the the kid, he was pretty young. there you go. Jersey just scored to win it in overtime, so five four loss. There goes that epic comeback. Yeah. We'll take the point. We'll take the point. Seven seven and

Bright: Yeah, I we'll take the point. We'll take the point. Seven seven and two now. Probably should be at it. No, when you're down, we were down four one, I think, at one point, so to come back and even get a point on the road that is is big. But yeah, so they the guy throws his leg up and yeah, cuts this guy's throat, and of course he he knew what happened and he skated off the off the ice and

Duds: Because you probably shouldn't have got any points. No, we're down we were down four one at one point. So to come back and even get a point on the road like that is is big. But yeah, so they the guy throws his leg up. Yeah, cuts this guy's throat and of course he he knew what happened and he skated off the Was there any criminal charges on that guy? I'd have to look into that, double check because I do kind of remember there being

Bright: I'd have to look into that and double check because I do remember there being yeah, an investigation. Yes. And there's a story I want to talk about later. I'll tease it. Yes. The soccer story we'll talk about a little bit later. I know. And we'll see how that how that fits in. But after that happened, there was a big push for these neck guards. So they they're almost just like cloth, a big pad padded cloth that wraps around your neck.

Duds: definitely an investigation. Investigation. Yes. And there's a story I want to talk about later. Soccer. Speaking of criminals. I know. And we'll see how that how that fits in. But after that happened, there's a big push for these neck guards. So I haven't even seen these. where are they? it is big padded cloth, a big pad padded cloth that wraps around your neck.

Bright: almost like a turtleneck and it probably restricts head movement to an extent.

Duds: almost like a turtleneck and it probably restricts head movement too. Wouldn't think that they would like that. When the most players would like that. I know TJ Oshi, former blue, he was pushing them. So we'll s we'll see what happens there. But

Bright: No. No. I know TJ Oshi, former blue, he was pushing him. So we'll s we'll see what happens there. But

Duds: pitchers wearing those big padded hats and baseball and yeah, all it takes is one person. Do you remember was it Edwin Encarnacion from the Saint Louis Cardinals? He took a foul ball. That ended his career, didn't it? Ended his career. Yeah. He was in a he was in an on deck circle or something. Mm hmm. On deck circle. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: Right, right. Yeah. All it takes is one person. Do you remember was it Edwin Encarnacion for the Saint Louis Cardinals? He took a foul ball. ended his career. Yeah, yeah. On circle or something? Mm-hmm. On deck circle. Yeah. Yeah. And well, I was gonna say, talking to Nilla, we were talking about the goalie and it wasn't for the blues, but it was against the blues back in the nineties. And we were probably too young for it to

Duds: Yeah, well, I was gonna say talking Nilla, we were talking about the goalie. And it wasn't for the blues, but it was against the blues back in the nineties. And we were probably too young for it to have seen it happen live. But do you have you seen that video where our guy, the blues player, goes sliding into the goal and cuts the goalie's neck? It's brutal. And of course there's blood everywhere. He's freaking out. And this is before they have neck guards. So he's you know

Bright: To have seen it happen live, but do you have you seen that video where our guy, the Balut's player, goes sliding into the goal and cuts the goalie's neck? it's brutal. And of course, there's blood everywhere. He's freaking out. And this is before they have neck guards. So he's, you know, he's holding his neck. There's blood squirting everywhere. I like I think people were throwing up all over the place. Two people in the stands had heart attacks. Okay. Yeah, had heart attacks because of all the blood.

Duds: Holding his neck, there's blood spreading everywhere. I I think people were throwing up all over the place. Two people in the stands had heart attacks. No kidding. Yeah, had heart attacks because of all the blood. And now this guy survived. And it looks probably even worse on the ice. the white ice out there and the blood just gets everywhere. It's it's crazy. And if you go watch the broadcast, when you listen to the broadcasters and they figure out what the heck's happening, it's it's pretty nuts. Did

Bright: And now this guy survived. Yeah, for sure. You can you can see it. It's it's crazy. And and if you go watch the broadcast, when you listen to the the broadcasters and they figure out what the heck's happening, it's it's pretty nuts.

Duds: he survive?

Bright: He did because he had a really good I think it was the blues trainer that ran onto the ice. I don't quote me on that, and literally stuck his fingers in the guy's neck. Yeah, pinched off the

Duds: He did because he had a really good I think it was the blues trainer that ran onto the ice. Don't quote me on that. And literally stuck his finger in his jug back, pinched off the pinched off the vein or whatever and held the blood in so that they could get him into the back room, tie it off, get him to the hospital. That is wild, dude. Wild. You think if

Bright: pinched off the vein or whatever and held the blood in so that they could get him into the back room, tie it off, get him to the hospital. Wild. so

Duds: your neck gets cut like that, you're a goner. Of course. And he came back and played.

Bright: Of course. And he came back and played not next game, like a week a week later. But I think ultimately his career did end early because he he just couldn't get over the PTSD. Yeah. That's kinda sticky for a long time. Yeah. So you're not gonna be the same. You're gonna like it's always gonna be there. Yeah, thinking about that. Yep. I think I think that's what it was. And there was a documentary

Duds: next game. Not next game. But like a week a week later. But I think ultimately his career did end early because he he just couldn't get over the PTSD. yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. That's gotta stick with you for a long time. Yeah. And you're not gonna be the same. You're gonna like it's always gonna be there. You're gonna be thinking about that and Yep. I think I think that's what it was. And yeah, turn that TV off there was a documentary actually. We'll turn a little bit better so we can actually look

Bright: actually we'll turn a little bit better so we can't actually look at each other. there was a documentary about his life and the incident and I can't remember where it's located. but but he c he goes into all of it and he ends up living on a ranch in the middle of nowhere. Like he can't be around people, around crowds, like he's got serious PTSD from the incident, so

Duds: there was a documentary about his life and the incidents and I can't remember where it's located. but but he he goes into all of it. He ends up living at a ranch in the middle of nowhere. Like he can't be around people, around crowds, like he's got serious PTSD from the incidents. I can imagine. I mean that's a major thing happened to you. Yeah. I mean s just to survive. Crazy. So

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. t just to survive. Crazy. So

Duds: I don't know if I have PTSD from it. Maybe a little

Bright: Yeah, see I maybe it's

Duds: bit, but remember a year, year and a half, was it two years ago? I got bit by that dog. I was out walking in the morning. Yes, I remember you telling a story. And it was

Bright: Yes, I remember you telling the story.

Duds: five in the morning, I'm walking down the street and I the guy was walking his Rottweiler. Yeah.

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: And he pinned him up against the fence when I was passing him and the dog must have felt threatened and it lunged at me, bit me on the arm, right? And got me pretty good and had to go to the hospital, get stitches and everything.

Bright: bit me on the arm, right? And got me pretty good. Yeah. But ever since

Duds: But ever since then, I haven't really wanted to go walking in the morning anymore. And not really thinking it's the dog, but I'm sure it's probably part of it. I was I was out there every morning doing that and every day wanted to go out and do it. And then after that incident happened, it was kinda like Well, then what happened? I don't really want to do it anymore. I think they ended up putting the dog down. Yeah. Cause well,

Bright: Sure. Yeah. Not really thinking like the dog, but I'm sure it's probably part of it. Like I was I was out there every morning, like every day wanted to go out and do And then after that incident happened, it was kinda like Well and what happened with the dog? Nothing they did put the dog down. Yeah.

Duds: I think what the county does Is if there's a dog bite like that, like an incident, they take the dog and they put him in like a holding cell. Yep. Solitary confinement. I think it's longer than that. I think it's like a week or something. But

Bright: Yep. Solitary confinement for it's like three days, seventy two hours or something like that. Yeah. It's like a week. Right. Yeah.

Duds: they from what I've heard end up if you want the dog back, they send

Bright: S.

Duds: you a bill saying, Hey, it's like four hundred dollars a day that they put the dog up. So you got a bill of like four thousand dollars. You want the dog back or do you want to just get rid of the dog? Yeah. And

Bright: Get rid of the dog. Yeah. These guys have the dog. Right. And it's like at that point if it's gonna lunch at somebody who's just walking by Sure. The guy's like, it's like yeah. It's a liability. I mean and they paid for your

Duds: Make the decision. These guys didn't want the dog. Right. And it's like w at that point, if it's gonna lunge at somebody who's just walking by. Sure. The guy's like, he's never done it before. It was like, Yeah. It's a liability. It's a liability at that point. They paid for everything. Yeah. and they were fine. I mean it the guy didn't mean for it to happen, obviously. And the dog probably was fine, but

Bright: Obviously. Yeah. And the dog problem was fine, but

Duds: he just wasn't walking him correctly. It was an old guy, you know, he shouldn't have been walking the dog. It wasn't even his dog, it was his kids'

Bright: Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: dog that it was taking care of at his house and just a big debacle. They felt terrible about it and like so with dogs, I I love dogs. Dog person, had dogs growing up. I do not want to own a dog. And my wife also has PTSD 'cause she was bit by a dog. yeah. A German shepherd. And sh she could be like Villa's dogs. Loves Avery, they're good dogs and she has experience with them but

Bright: So with dogs, I I love dogs. Dog person, had dogs growing up. I do not want to own a dog. And my wife also has PTSD because she was bit by a dog, a German shepherd. And she could be like Nila's dogs, loves Avery and Finley. They're good dogs and she has experience with them. But going over to like random people's houses with dogs.

Duds: Going over to random people's houses with dogs

Bright: Or dogs that are breeds that are considered to be mean. Not saying that they all are, but Yeah. So Rottweilers and what yeah. what's the other big one right now? Everybody has pit bulls, right? So Bobcat Man,

Duds: or dogs that are breeds that are considered to be mean necessarily. Yeah, or more like more territorial or more Rottweilers and Shepherds and Silberman. What's the other big one? Everybody has pit bulls, right? So Bobcat Man.

Bright: right? So going over to his house is a big deal because of the dogs. And they're big dogs. So like if something happens

Duds: And going over to his house is a big deal. Yeah, the American Terrier type. And they're big dogs. So if something happens It's a big ball of muscle. Sure. Yeah, yeah. This this dog that got me was like a probably a hundred and twenty pound Rottweiler. It was a big ass dog.

Bright: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have to watch out. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah.

Duds: And there wasn't much I could do about it. Like

Bright: No.

Duds: he he got me from the side, got my arm, and caught me by surprise. Like I didn't even realize what was going

Bright: Right.

Duds: on. And he chomped down on me and instantly my whole arm just went numb.

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: And I just what the fuck hap I didn't know what was going on. And he kinda yanked on him and he let go. Luckily

Bright: I didn't know what was going on.

Duds: he didn't tear me up too bad. But if he wouldn't have sure got him off me, I don't know if I could have gotten him off. Right. They knew how to fight for your life. Yeah.

Bright: Sure. Yeah. Right. Right. Then you're in a fight for your life more or less.

Duds: He was a it was a big dog. It was scary. But and I will tell you, ever since then, like I'm much more cautious about even just random dogs, people walking their dogs. I'm just always kind of more on guard now. Yeah. I don't know why. Well I had been bitten

Bright: Sure. Right. I'm just always kind of more on guard now. Yeah. I know why. Yeah. Well I'd been bitten

Duds: As a kid. Yeah. Not as bad. Right. And it was a smaller dog. But I think I got over that. But lunged at my face and bit my ear, I think. Really? Yeah. What was her name? I she was a good dog too. Yeah, you were you were maybe there even. We were in the backyard by provoking her. But well for whatever we were pretty young.

Bright: as a kid. Yeah. I got bit by Nate Dog's German Shepherd. It wasn't wasn't bad, but lunged at my face and bit my ear, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't remember. Yeah, you were you were maybe there even. We were in the backyard and what no, for whatever we were pretty young.

Duds: 'Cause I think it was one my first times over to his house. Yeah, that dog was so docile. Yeah, it was good and and and we were fine after that. And I think it really thought it was playing. Right? But then it was more or less was chasing me around the backyard and I was running away 'cause I didn't know and it was a German shepherd. I didn't know what the heck was and it did. It jumped up and I remember Nate's mom was she was a little concerned, but I Well sometimes y I mean they're still animals, like they can

Bright: I think it was like one of my first times over to his house. Yeah, yeah. It was good and and and we were fine after that. And I think it really thought it was playing, right? But then it was more or less was chasing me around the backyard and I was running away because I didn't know and it was a German Shepherd. I didn't know what the heck was going on and it did. It jumped up and I remember Nate's mom was she was a little concerned, but I was I was fine. Sure.

Duds: get that instinct in and You don't know what they're gonna do. Yeah, we were probably twelve, thirteen, something like Okay, it's pretty young. Yeah, pretty young. Yeah. So well that brings me to one of my topics and it was a nice little segue, but the the theme is death is everywhere. Everywhere. The stories that I have.

Bright: Yeah, we were probably twelve, thirteen, something like that. So yeah, pretty young. Yeah. So, well that brings me to one of my topics. And it was a nice little segue, but the the theme is Death is everywhere, dude. Everywhere. Yeah. The stories that I have.

Duds: You ever see that how I met your mother? When they have the I think it's when they have their kid. I definitely have 'cause I've seen them all. You've

Bright: I definitely have 'cause I've seen them all.

Duds: seen all. So what was the I can't remember their names now. But Marshall and Lily Lily, they have their their child and then they they walk outside,

Bright: Yeah, Lily. Yeah. huh. yeah.

Duds: they realize that like death is all around them. They're so worried about it. It's like that first drive home when you're leaving the hospital and you're going thirty miles an hour.

Bright: Sure. Yeah. Once they have kids. Right. It's like that first drive home when you're leaving the hospital and you're going thirty miles an hour.

Duds: I think I ran two stoplights like going home. I can't slam on the brakes. Well there was a big there was a big crash today. yeah. Did you hear about it? It took Caroline two hours to get to work. And

Bright: Well there was a big there was a big crash today. Did you hear about that? It it took Caroline two hours to get to work. And my daughter had chess club this morning, missed that. Everybody was late. and I was like, What what are you gonna do? The highway shut down. It happened at four o'clock in the morning. So is that what Yeah, yeah.

Duds: My daughter had chess club this morning, this that and everybody was late. and I was like, What what are you gonna do with the highway shouldn't happen? yeah. It happened at four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, semi and a trash truck and then a passenger truck, I think. And I I know there were from what I heard, at least one fatality in that. Yeah. Yeah in that group of cars. It was right at our road, Tesson Ferry. was it? Yes. So I don't wanna I can guess I don't want to think about exactly what your road. But right I mean people can look it up.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. And it was right at our road, Tesson Ferry. And yes. So I don't wanna I I guess I don't want to give out exactly where I'm at, but but right. people can look it up, I but yeah, not great. So yes, death is everywhere, and some of these stories that I have, and some of I'm sure our listeners have heard about, but maybe not all of We have to start, I think, with the Learjet crash in Florida.

Duds: Yeah, not great. So yes, death is everywhere. And some of these stories that I have, and some of them I'm sure our listeners have heard about, but maybe not all of We have to start, I think, with the Learjet crash in Florida. Do you have the Marathon runner too? I do. Yeah. I read that story this morning. Soccer player, hockey player. All right. There's your your quick little tease right there. But yeah, I figure we gotta start with a Learjet, 'cause this was this was a crazy accident.

Bright: I do. Yep. And soccer player, hockey player. All right. There's your your quick little tease right there. But yeah, I figure we gotta start with the Learjet, because this was this was a crazy accident. And I looked up like some of the stats, and this is I'm I have my notes here, but this is going off of my memory. That since they started like keeping track of like nosedive plane crashes.

Duds: And I looked up like some of the stats and this is I have my notes here but it's going off of my memory, that since they started like keeping track of like nosedive plane crashes It only happens once in every seventy five million flights or something like that. it's so Damn. Yeah. I didn't even know there was that many flights. It's a lot of flights. That was this was going decades back. It started keeping track back in like the eighties or whatever. So

Bright: It only happens once in every seventy five million flights or something like that. it's so Yeah. Well that that was like this is going decades back. They started keeping track back in like the eighties or whatever. So

Duds: So here, let me preface this whole podcast by saying that I haven't been on social media like at all. I got rid of X. What? How are you promoting the pod? I'm not. I just

Bright: What? How are you promoting the pod? I'm not. Sure. So I deleted it.

Duds: 'Cause it was just eating up too much time. I was like, yeah, I so I deleted it. I haven't been on it. And then yeah, I've just been trying to get off my phone so much. So I haven't been following much news. I've just

Bright: Right.

Duds: been scrolling on the random stories that pop up. This is gonna turn into me giving you the news. That was spot as well. That's exactly what it is. Yes. This is my time to absorb the news from you. So give me the whole story. What happened? Well, so it crashed on November first.

Bright: So this is gonna turn into me giving you the news. Is that what this pod is all about now? Unbelievable. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Well, so it crashed on November 1st in Green Acres, which is in Florida. All nine people on board died, right? So only nine people, but it was so it was a like a private jet, right? So

Duds: In Green Acres, which is in Florida, all nine people on board died, right? So only nine people, but it was so it was a like a private jet, right? So it departed Austin and it was headed for the Bahamas. Okay. All right. And the pilot called in to the tower in Miami, I think, and was reporting mild turbulence and a little bit of ice, nothing that they couldn't handle.

Bright: It departed Austin and it was headed for the Bahamas. All right. And the pilot called in to the tower in Miami, I think, and was reporting mild turbulence and a little bit of ice, nothing that they couldn't handle.

Duds: They said that they wanted to climb, I want to say, to 40,000 feet. They were at 37,000. Yeah, I didn't even know they flew that. And yeah, I mean for sure. But 40,000 is getting pretty high. Yeah.

Bright: They said that they wanted to climb, I want to say, to forty thousand feet. They were at thirty seven thousand. And yeah, I mean for sure, but forty thousand's getting pretty high.

Duds: but they wanted to get out of the weather. Okay. The temperature was somewhere in the negative 50 degrees Celsius range. And so what's weird is at that temperature, you really shouldn't see ice. And if you are getting ice, it should be ice pellets. So the main concern is ice.

Bright: but they wanted to get out of the the weather. The temperature was somewhere in the negative 50 degrees Celsius range. And so what's weird is at that temperature, you really shouldn't see ice. And if you are getting ice, it should be ice pellets. So the main concern is ice

Duds: that sticks to the wings. Right. So the only reason it sticks to the wings is there's moisture in there. But what I'm hearing is that there was a thunderstorm and w pretty much the only thing that could

Bright: that sticks to the wings. And the only reason it sticks to the wings is if there's moisture in there. But what I'm hearing is is that there was a thunderstorm, and w pretty much the only thing that could

Duds: cause ice to stick is the moisture, would be the thunderstorm taking the really warm air from underneath Florida and bringing it up in like a tunnel quickly to those heights, 37, 40 thousand feet.

Bright: cause ice to stick is the moisture, would be the thunderstorm taking the really warm air from underneath Florida and bringing it up in like a tunnel quickly to those heights, thirty seven, forty thousand feet.

Duds: And so it was it was like a quick onset thing. But they were flying through a thunderstorm and that's what everybody's kinda saying right now, is that they should not

Bright: And so it was it was like a quick onset thing. But they were flying through a thunderstorm. And that's what everybody's kind of saying right now is that they should not

Duds: have gone through this thunderstorm. Yeah, you should have gone. Can you go around it? Of course you can, but it adds time to your flight pattern. Maybe they thought that they were confident enough. I I don't know. And how long is this gonna add to their flight, you know? Right, sure. That's the thing. And it's Florida. I mean it's not convenient, but all the way around.

Bright: have gone through this thunderstorm. They should have gone around. Of course you can, but it adds time to your flight pattern. Maybe they thought that they were confident enough. I don't know. Right, sure. That's the thing. I gotta go. And it's Florida. I mean it's not convenient. You might have to go all the way around. And

Duds: Then you gotta get clearance, you gotta do all kinds of things, especially as a private jet, right? You're not a big Boeing with three hundred people on board.

Bright: then you gotta get clearance. You gotta do all kinds of things, especially as a private jet, right? You're not a big Boeing with 300 people on

Duds: Right. So so I don't know, but they they decided to do that after taking a shortcut. Once they went started going up, it wasn't soon after that they were calling Mayday. So they were losing at first ten thousand feet per minute as they were going down. And then the co pilot calls back in at some point says she's going twenty thousand feet. A minute. A minute.

Bright: So so I don't know, but they they decided to do that. But once they went started going up, it wasn't soon after that they were calling Mayday. So they were losing at first ten thousand feet per minute as they were going down. And then the co pilot calls back in at some point and says she's going twenty thousand feet. A minute. A minute.

Duds: well I mean that's pretty crazy. So it was a complete nosedive from that. Yes. So that's what we can't quite figure out. And there's new information coming out already. Now the investigation's gonna take a long time. But they started like going down, so they were going down. They were going down in like a circular motion. So they had lost pretty much all control play. You think it would just go straight down? So

Bright: Yes, so that's what we can't quite figure out. And there's new information coming out already. Now the investigation is gonna take a long time, but they started like going down, so they were going down, and they were going down in like a circular motion. So they had lost pretty much all control of the plane, obviously. So

Duds: I guess I'm not a pilot. I gotta say that right off the bat. I tried to do some research. I've read some stuff online from other pilots. but they were banking, it was at a sixty degree angle. So the wing either was taking on ice, which is causing the lift of the plane to get screwed up, which is why they were in a nose dive. Right. And if you're in a nose dive like that and your your wings are screwed up, what you need to do actually is you need to level the wings first.

Bright: I guess I'm not a pilot. I gotta say that right off the bat. I've tried to do some research. I've read some stuff online from other pilots. but they were banking, it was at a sixty degree angle. So the wing either was taking on ice, which is causing the lift of the plane to get screwed up, which is why they were in a nosedive. And if you're in a nose dive like that and your your wings are screwed up, what you need to do actually is you need to level the wings first.

Duds: So instinct

Bright: So instinct

Duds: Tells you to pull up on on the steering wheel. Do I step up? I don't know. pull up to get the nose up. Pull up. But if you're taking at 60 and and you're struggling with that, you're nose diving, it's actually pushing your nose down even further. Sounds like a bad situation. Well then they said that the tail get the parachutes. Yeah. no, no parachute. The tail wing

Bright: tells you to pull up on on the steering wheel, whatever the door stick, whatever it's called, I don't know, to pull up to get the nose up. But if you're banging at 60 and and you're struggling with that, you're nose diving, it's actually pushing your nose down even further if you don't level off. Well, then they said that the tail, yeah. nope, no parachutes. the tail wing.

Duds: That could have been an issue, as could have been the leveler. And if that was the case, then really there was no hope.

Bright: That could have been an issue, as could have been the leveler. And if that was the case, then really there was no hope. So the initial investigation did find parts of the aircraft outside of the crater. So they said that the plane was falling apart on the way down. But they don't what they don't know Correct. Mainly parts of the tail. Yes. So what they don't know though is the co pilot she radioed in a

Duds: So the initial investigation did find parts of the aircraft outside of the crater. So they said that the plane was falling apart on the way down. But they don't know found other pieces that came down. Not part of the crash. Yeah. So what they don't know though is the co pilot she radioed in a over speed situation. Like

Bright: over speed situation like duh so the plane was going plane was going faster than the aircraft allows which would contribute to starting yeah a a lot of other issues

Duds: So the plane was faster than the aircraft allows, which would contribute to starting to break apart a a lot of other issues.

Bright: so just tragic overall it was a tech entrepreneur his wife they're two young kids like young well they weren't the ones flying but they were the passengers the nanny

Duds: So just tragic overall, was a tech entrepreneur, his wife, their two young kids. They were flying? Young. Well, they weren't the ones flying, but they were the ones passors. Okay. The nanny and then their two friends, and then the two pilots. The main pilot was a fifty five year old male, and the co pilot was a twenty year old female who got her pilot's license before she got her driver's license. Well, that's pretty nuts. Yeah, pretty nuts.

Bright: And then their two friends, and then the two pilots. The main pilot was a fifty-five year old male, and the co pilot was a twenty year old female who got her pilot's license before she got her driver's license. Yeah, pretty nuts. And it seemed like even though she didn't have per se a lot of experience, everything I'm reading online said that she was a great pilot. but if if the audio is out there, that is the most brutal part. yeah. yeah.

Duds: though she didn't have per se a lot of experience everything I'm reading online so that she was a great pilot. Sure. but if the audio is out there, that is the most brutal part. yeah? Did you listen to it? I did listen to it. It's one of those things you kinda kind of like the video of the hockey very cringe. You're like, I I almost wish I didn't listen to that because you know the outcome. You know that this is what was going through their head. Well yeah and you start to like kind

Bright: I did listen to it. It's one of those things you kinda kinda like the video of the hockey player getting this like you're like, I I almost wish I didn't listen to that because the outcome. that this is what was going through their head as they were getting ready to crash.

Duds: of put yourself in their position and really starts to make you feel

Bright: Yeah, for

Duds: Sure, especially the the young kids. I have young kids, you have young kids. Definitely.

Bright: sure. Especially with the young kids. I have young kids, you have young kids. Definitely.

Duds: I know and I've thought about if we had enough money we'd just fly private jets all the time and you know, that'd be awesome. But I guess we have to look up the stats, like how many private jets crash versus commercial jets. It's definitely more. the smaller the plane I think for the more

Bright: It's definitely more. the smaller the plane, I think the more crashes there are. Yeah, I mean you have to have more flight time to fly a bigger plane. I think they have more autopilot and instruments and more people keeping an eye on I don't know. But that doesn't mean that there's aren't there aren't accidents. Obviously there was the one in D Core off. I don't know.

Duds: crashes there are. You think so? Yeah. you have to have more flight time to fly bigger planes. I think they have more autopilot and instruments and more people keep probably. But that doesn't mean that there's aren't there aren't access. Obviously there was the one in the It seems like they are just more more often. I don't know. maybe we just hear about more. Yeah, certainly small ones you hear about because of social media. Like you you probably wouldn't hear I wasn't

Bright: Yeah, certainly the small ones you hear about because of social media. you you probably wouldn't hear if it wasn't for social media, you might not be hearing about that twenty years ago,

Duds: social media might not be hearing about that twenty years ago. Right. Right. Somebody have to write it and read it in a newspaper months later. Exactly. Yeah, you're not getting you're not getting the immediate the video, there was dash cam video of a plane literally about to crash like So what did it crash into? It crashed into a mobile home park.

Bright: right? Or you just hear a plane crash, you'd be like, Okay, you know. Yeah. Right, right. Exactly. Yeah, you're not getting you're not getting the immediate the video there was dash cam video of the plane literally about to crash like if crash into a mobile home park.

Duds: man. And somehow I don't think it hit anybody. Nobody on the ground, okay. In and of itself because pretty amazing going into a populated area is out of control.

Bright: And somehow I don't think it hit anybody and it it did not kill anybody on the ground, which is in and of itself, considering you're going into a populated area, is out of control.

Duds: Is it daytime, nighttime? It was daytime. Yeah, a lot of people driving. So a lot of a lot of dash camps. Yeah. So just just brutal. Again, it's it's ongoing. they they were experiencing turbulence, but I don't know. Does it does it change the way you think about flying? I fly a lot. Yeah,

Bright: It was daytime. Yeah, a lot of people driving. So a lot of a lot of dash cams. Yeah. So just just brutal. Again, it's it's ongoing. you know, they they were experiencing turbulence, but I don't know. Does it does it change the way you think about flying? I fly a lot. Yeah, yeah.

Duds: it no, it doesn't change the way I think about flying. Yeah,

Bright: Right. The stats still back you up. Yeah.

Duds: and I I don't know, I feel like if you if you really started to try to focus on that, you you could you could focus on anything, going yeah, going to work, you get hit by a semi.

Bright: Yeah. Going to work. Yeah. Car accidents, right, that'd be the guy yeah, today.

Duds: You really you can't you can't get hung up on that stuff. You can't think about all the bad stuff that could happen. Right. The chances

Bright: Right. Right. The chances

Duds: are a you know low percentage. They are a possibility. But if you live your life, you know, always in fear, then you're never gonna leave your house. Right. You know, and you could you could die falling down the stairs in your own house. Like nothing guaranteed. So I actually close calls. Yeah.

Bright: But if you live your life, always in fear, you're never gonna leave your house. Right. Right. You can die falling down the stairs in your own house. I've had some close calls.

Duds: I feel like no, it doesn't really change my outlook on on flying. Like I when I book a flight and I get on a plane I just kinda zone out on on that and I yeah, hey for the best. Hope for the best. they I put my trust in this pilot and hopefully he gets us there. And yeah, in the back of your mind you probably think, this could be it, if this gets a little turbulent. Yeah. Had some crazy,

Bright: Yeah. Hope for the best, right? Right. Put my trust in this pilot and hopefully he gets us there. Yeah. You know, in the back of your mind you probably think, this could be it. Sure. This gets a little turbulent. Yeah.

Duds: landings and stuff, like thinking, don't want the landing gear to fail and crash. But Yeah, I've never had anything like too as often as I fly, nothing too crazy.

Bright: Yeah, I've never had anything like two with as often as I fly, nothing too crazy. I have had two touch and goes. You know what a touch and go is? Yeah. They come down, wheels to the ground, and then right back up they go. And one of was I know I don't know what the first one was for. Could have could have been something too fast or just the second one, they definitely said that the plane in front of didn't clear the runway fast enough. So they had to get back out of there. Yeah.

Duds: I have had two touch and goes. You know what a touch and go is? yeah, they come down. They come down right back up to go. And one of them was I know I don't know what the first book was for. Could have could have been something too fast. The second one, they definitely said that the plane in front of them didn't clear the runway fast enough. So they had to get back out of there. Yeah, I've heard I've seen that on the news where a guy, you know, just here recently, like in the past few months where some airliner came down and he

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: Hold back up 'cause there was another plane coming across. now believe it or not though, that's actually pretty common. It's very easy. Pilots do this all the time. Talking to one of my paying attention. Gotta be paying attention. Talking to one of my Air Force buddies, he said they do this in the air force all the time because it's

Bright: Now believe it or not though, that's actually pretty common. It's very easy. Pilots do this all the time. Talking to one of my Air Force gotta be paying attention. Talking to one of my Air Force buddies, he said they do this in the Air Force all the time because it's cheaper than practicing landing the plane. Because if you land the plane, then you gotta take off again. So this way they just keep doing it and they save a lot of fuel.

Duds: cheaper than practicing landing the plane. This way they just keep doing it. Yeah, and it kind of gets you back up there. You're practicing your landing. Obviously you're not doing that when you have, you know, 300 people on board and you're flying commercial. No, the people next to me they were freaking out too. They didn't know and I was like, don't worry about it.

Bright: No, the people next to me, they were freaking out too. They didn't know and I was like, Don't worry about it. It happens. This is why and yeah. Dallas. Okay. Yeah. Yes. And that's where those accidents happened was at Reagan. Yeah, yeah. With the helicopter. Yeah.

Duds: It happens. This is why Have you ever flown into DC? yeah. Into Reagan? Dallas. Okay. Dallas is much easier. Reagan And that's where those accidents happen. That's where that accident did happen with the helicopter. And so I flown into there bunches of times when we lived out there. And there was a couple of occasions where they I think after nine eleven they had changed all the flight pattern laws and everything of how how they had to approach 'cause that airport if people don't know, is really close to downtown DC.

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: Reagan is. And on the if you're coming in from the north, you basically follow the Potomac and right at the very end you make like a I don't know, it's probably not a ninety degree turn, but it's like a sixty degree bank onto the runway and land.

Bright: sixty degree bank onto the runway. Right.

Duds: And I mean you're coming in hot and low right over the highway and then you make this bank turn into the into the airport.

Bright: Make a bank turn into there.

Duds: It's pretty wild. And there was a couple of times on those flights where they s the pilot came on 'cause they had to recircle around and said, Yeah, we were coming in and the angle just wasn't right. You know, we couldn't couldn't make the landing. And good on the good on the exact thing. I'd rather try again. Sure. And you know, when I completed the touching cause the second time I was a little annoyed because I think we were already late. And that added at least like another thirty minutes, forty minutes, 'cause we had to get

Bright: Yeah. Well and good on the good on the pilots for recognizing that, right? And saying either Sure. Right, a hundred percent. And when I when we did the touch and go on the second time, I was a little annoyed because I think we were already late. And that added at least another thirty minutes, forty minutes, because we had to get all the way back, circle back around, get back in the flight pattern. There's other planes coming in, so you got to get behind them. And I'm like,

Duds: all the way back, circle back around, get back in the flight pattern. There's other planes coming in, so you gotta get behind them. I was annoyed too this this one time that happened because we were flying back from Omaha and we were out really late the night before for a company event. Right. So I was hung over on the airplane. It was like a six AM flight, you know,

Bright: Yeah. Right. So I guess they have

Duds: and it was pretty turbulent and we're coming in a approach was just rattling the plane the whole time. I'm like never threw up on an airplane, but I was really close.

Bright: Yeah. All right. Like, my god. man. Ugh. No good. Well, if you don't die in a plane

Duds: And then I was like, Alright, we're c we're gonna land. Nope, we didn't land. We're gonna go around, do it again. And Jenny's just looking at me like my god, he's gonna throw up all over the place. Like, where's the barf bag? Well, if you don't die in the plane crash

Bright: crash, you can die at a marathon. So this was this is another crazy one, man.

Duds: I read that this morning. This is another crazy one. Yeah. So what that sickness was was like Rhomdo do you have what it's called? I don't know. Yeah, I do. Rhomdomolyisis. Rhomdomy Iisisis. And it's so

Bright: I don't know if I yeah, I do. Rhomdomally something like that, yeah.

Duds: the weirdest part is I was talking to a guy at work today and he had that just here recently. So he told me he had just been working out. I started working out again like six weeks ago. Is this something you're diagnosed?

Bright: Here recently. So he told me he had just been working out. Is this something you're diagnosed with, or is this something that can happen? Yeah, okay. But essentially he started working.

Duds: I think it can kind of happen to anybody. but essentially he had started working out. I guess long story short, he went to the doctor, was getting like diagnosed with type two diabetes or whatever. So he's like, Well, I'm gonna kick nip this in the bud and I'm gonna start working out, eating healthier.

Bright: Right. well I'm gonna kick nip this in the butt and I'm gonna start working out.

Duds: So he's cut back calories big time, started working out, and he probably went a little too hard and cut way too many calories out

Bright: Way too many calories out.

Duds: and was working out way too hard. And got super sick and he didn't know what it was and

Bright: Super sick. They didn't know what it was and

Duds: he went to the doctor and he he was like, This is the most sick I had ever been in my whole life. And I guess it puts protein like excess protein or electrolytes into your in your system. Yeah, I hear it's like your muscles more or less are like poisoning your I'd never even heard of that before. I I I read that this

Bright: This is a post sec item. Right. Right. I guess it's it's like protein. It's basically your muscles. Yeah, I hear it's like your muscles more or less are like poisoning your your blood. No, no.

Duds: morning and he told me about that today and I was like, That's so weird. They were talking about it on the news and they brought in some expert or whatever. And of course they're like anytime you run a marathon

Bright: They were talking about it on the news and they brought in some expert or whatever. And of course they're like, Anytime you run a marathon, like you're overexerting like what your body really is supposed to be doing. And they were asking, like, that was the thing. She was almost done. She was young, twenty four years old, attractive, in good shape. say she was running this for her grandfather. I think that I can't remember how he passed away, but

Duds: Sure. You're over exerting what your body really is supposed to be doing. She was like at mile twenty four though, too. She was almost done. She was young, twenty four years old, attractive, in good shape. say she was running this for her grandfather. I think that I can't remember how he passed away, but

Bright: may Parkinson's, that's what it was. Parkinson's. She was a field hockey player at Bucknell. Bucknell? Bucknell, right? Bucknell. Bucknell? I don't know. So like she was an athlete. But yeah. 26 miles, right? And so they were following her, the parents, they were there. They were waiting at mile marker twenty-five.

Duds: Maybe Parkinson's, that's what it was, Parkinson's. She was a field hockey player at Bucknell. Bucknell? Bucknell, right? Bucknell? Bucknell? I don't know. So she was an athlete. Yeah. But Marathon's a long way. Yeah. And so they were following her, the parents they were there. They were waiting at mile marker twenty-five. And they were following her tracker on the app and she stopped moving at twenty four. And I think she

Bright: And they were following her tracker on the app and she stopped moving at twenty-four. And I think she

Duds: had like sent her dad a text that just said like owl owl That was it. Yeah. I mean just insane.

Bright: had sent her dad a text that just said like ow ow and that was it. I mean just insane.

Duds: My coworker, you know, said he had to go to the hospital, had to get I V, you know, fluids and all that stuff to like get back and it's a serious situation. Yeah. They said that they they

Bright: Right. It's a serious situation. Yeah, they said that they they did use a defibrillator. There was CPR before they transported her to the hospital. She passed away at the hospital. Right. Yeah. Right. So yeah, exactly. So I don't know, they're still investigating the official cause, but that's what the dad came out and said was rhabdomyasis.

Duds: The fibulator, there was CPR before they transported her to the hospital. She's almost like poisoned. She really need to have Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So I don't know, they're still investigating the official cause, but that's what the dad said was wrecked.

Bright: Rhabdomy. Yes. Yeah.

Duds: Rhabdomalleitis. Yes. Yeah. It's a mouthful. That's the thing. It's like, yeah, at what point is pushing yourself. Have you ever wanted to run a marathon? Never. Never. Greaves tried to get me to run a half marathon once, and I was like, no. Why would I do that? We were gonna run the Army Ten Miler when we lived out in DC. Yeah.

Bright: Ugh, and that that's the thing, is yeah, at what point does pushing yourself Have you ever wanted to run a marathon? Never. Never. Never. Greaves tried to get me to run a half marathon once and I was like, No, why would I do that? We were gonna run a ten miler when we lived out at DC. Yeah.

Duds: And we were training for it. We bought the you had to pay for it, buy buy your tickets for like a hundred bucks. Right.

Bright: Yeah. Right.

Duds: And We were training for it. I think we got up to where we were not running fast. We were jogging, you know. but like ten minute miles, you know. And and we were building up to it. I think we got like the the furthest distance we had

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: during training was like eight miles. That was the furthest I'd ever run or jogged eight miles. So we probably could have done the ten. Yeah. But then

Bright: yeah. I've with soccer. But then Jenny started getting shin spots. Right. So we're just like I've definitely run six or seven miles easy.

Duds: Jenny started getting shin splints and knee problems. So we're like we're not gonna do it. I definitely run six or seven miles easy. Soccer or just whatever. It's like one game, right? In college, well I don't we didn't have trackers because who who knows how much we ran in the game. That was just before practice. For an hour

Bright: soccer just sure whatever. I remember in college, well, I don't we didn't have trackers at who who knows how much you ran in the game. That was just like before practice. They'd be like, All right, let's go on a run, right?

Duds: and a half. Yeah, when you watch the professionals now and they're all tracked, they're running seven miles or something like that a game on average. But in college we would run two miles to a park. We had a field. But no, we're not practicing on the field, the school.

Bright: yeah, when you watch the professionals now and they're all tracked, they're running seven miles or something like that a game on average. But in college, we would run two miles to a park. We had a field, but no, we're not practicing on the field, the school

Duds: We'd run two miles to the park, then we'd have a full practice, and then we'd have to run two miles back. And the two miles back not the two miles there, the two miles back.

Bright: field. We'd run two miles to the park, then we'd have a full practice, and then we'd have to run two miles back. And the two miles back was timed. Not the two miles there, the two miles back.

Duds: And you were supposed to finish it in 11 minutes and 30 seconds. Never did it. Ever. Ever. I think my fastest time on the two-mile run was about 12 and So it's at a 545 mile. Yeah. No, no, there were people that did it. Yeah. I think I always found I was never a great runner. I hated running. I loved playing soccer.

Bright: And you were supposed to finish it in eleven minutes and thirty seconds. Never did it. Ever. Ever. I think my fastest time on the two mile run was about twelve and a half minutes. Yeah. No, no, there were people that did it. I think I always found 'cause I was never a great runner. I hated running. I love playing soccer. And as

Duds: long as was playing, I didn't even think about it. But if we were just running, I hated it. That's why I still hate it. I have no interest. That's why like and any of these five Ks. But cross

Bright: long as I was playing, I didn't even think about it. But if we were just running, I hated it. That's why I still hate it. I have no interest. That's why I like and any of these five K's, no.

Duds: country's not your thing? Not even remotely. And my boss's son is doing cross country. They got state

Bright: Not even remotely. And

Duds: state finals this this weekend, actually. Why I think he's running tomorrow. Why? Why I don't get it. You know

Bright: Why? Why? Why I don't get it.

Duds: what those guys run? They run it's like three miles. Yeah. Cross country. Like not on a track. Right.

Bright: Yeah. Cross country. Yeah. Not on a track. Right.

Duds: And I think That the times are fourteen forty. Yeah. Fourteen thirty. Yeah. It's sub five minute miles. Three of Three consecutive miles. Yeah. I don't know how you do it. No. It's like that's like almost a sprint. Yeah. It ain't it ain't fun. No, no, thank you. I

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's three of Right. Right. No. Yeah, it ain't it ain't fun. No, no, thank you.

Duds: think the fastest mile I ever ran was like six and a half minutes. I that's pretty good. Yeah. I've run one mile pretty fast.

Bright: Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. I've I've run one mile pretty fast. I've definitely in the five minute, but you're done. You you push it. But two miles, I yeah. No, nor could I. It wouldn't be a thing. All

Duds: Definitely in the five minute. But you're done. You you push it. Right. But two miles I if you knew you had to run three, you wouldn't have run that first. No, nor could I. It wouldn't be a thing. All right, well brings us back to soccer here a little bit. So Well back to soccer. This story and I don't know if you would have seen it, I guess if I wouldn't have posted it. I would not have no

Bright: right. Well, brings us back to soccer here a little bit. So back to soccer. This story, and I don't know if you would have seen it, I guess, if I wouldn't have posted it in the group chat. No.

Duds: 'cause it didn't really hit the news. And you're so like you're following the soccer per se. Not following any news right now. I know, but the C D S C what have they been doing here? we'll get to that. But so this this happened over in Europe.

Bright: 'Cause it didn't really hit the news and you're it's not like you're following soccer per se, except except for City S C posse. I know you follow religiously. we'll get to that. But so this this happened over in Europe

Duds: And this was a guy that played for Tenerife. And his name is Jesus de Miguel, thirty year old striker. And you saw the video, right? He was the guy that died. He was the guy that died. Okay.

Bright: and this was a guy that played for Tenerife and his name is Jesus de Miguel, thirty year old striker, and you saw the video, right? He was the guy that died.

Duds: Yeah. And it was a two-two game in extra time, so the time's winding down. His team plays the ball like over the top, and he's actually like going to be on a breakaway. So he's looking to bring the ball down and be on a breakaway one on one with a goalie to win the game. Right. And the goalie and you are

Bright: Yeah. And it was a two two game in extra time. So the time's winding down. His team plays the ball like over the top and he's actually like going to be on a breakaway. So he's looking to bring the ball down and be on a breakaway one on one with the goalie to win the game. And the goalie, and you are

Duds: trained to do this a little bit especially when the ball is down at the other end he's out of his box right you come out so that you can break up a player in case somebody kicks it too far ahead they can exactly

Bright: trained to do this a little bit, especially when the ball's down at the other end, he's out of his box, right? And you kinda come out so that you can break up a play or something like that. Yeah, exactly.

Duds: this was though at almost midfield right so at this point he's way out there and he he is just bum rushes this guy

Bright: This was though at almost midfield. So at this point, he's way out there. And he he is just bum rushes this guy. He's running in a full sprint. The other guy's not paying attention. Doesn't know the goalie's there. Doesn't expect the goalie to be there. He's looking for the ball. Yeah. And this goalie No, no. And this guy just jumps midair, knee up, everything a lot of people are are saying it was a freak accident.

Duds: He's running at a full spread. The other guy's not paying attention. Doesn't know the goalie is biggest Yeah, because he's looking back. He's looking for the ball. He's looking for the ball. Yeah. You don't expect a goalie in midfield. No. No. And this guy just jumps. Puts a knee up into his chest. Knee up. Every like a lot of people are are saying it was a freak accident. I I'm not buying it. When I first

Bright: I I'm not buying it. I've

Duds: watched it, I was like, it doesn't look so bad. Like I don't it didn't look malicious, but then when I slowed it down and watched it again, I was like,

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: the guy jumped up, put his knee up to the guy's chest. And supposedly there were other incidents leading up to that where things got a little hectic and and whatnot. So like tensions were already high. It's kinda

Bright: And supposedly there were other incidents leading up to that where things got a little hectic and and whatnot. So like tensions were already high.

Duds: like in football, right? You're you're going after a defenseless guy. The guy's not even looking at you. and you're running full speed at him and you jump

Bright: Sure.

Duds: up and you can protect yourself and he doesn't even know you're there. Yeah. And you just take him out. Now I don't think that he meant to kill this guy. No, of course not. the odds of that happening. And

Bright: He doesn't even know you're there. Yeah. Now I don't think that he meant to kill this guy. Of course not. I mean the odds of that happening.

Duds: what should the punishment be? Should you go to jail for it? I don't know. But you probably shouldn't be playing anymore. Well, he it's obviously he got red card and the I haven't seen if they've done anything else other than that, but

Bright: shouldn't be playing anymore. Well, he is obviously he got a red card, and the I haven't seen if they've done anything else other than that, but the league could suspend him, certainly. they have said that there's gonna be Spanish police said that they're gonna open an investigation, but prosecutors have already come out and said that like actual charges are unlikely. Like this was yes. Right. Right. And certainly you couldn't charge him for like

Duds: The league could suspend him, certainly. they have said that there's gonna be a Spanish police said that they're gonna open an investigation, but prosecutors have already come out and said that actual charges are unlikely. Right. It's like how do you prove malicious intent? Right. And certainly you couldn't charge him for murder or anything like that. It would be manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter. Of course the rules are different over in Spain, but I don't know how that works in sports, I know you can

Bright: murder or anything like that. It would be manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter. Of course the rules are different over in Spain, but I don't know how

Duds: Be charged in hockey, the NHL. Sure. I mean you use your stick or something and you hack somebody's head. Yeah. It's it's happened. but so I guess what happened is, and so the goalkeeper's name was also Jesus. Jesus Ohono. And Jesus

Bright: that works with sports. No. Yeah. I know you can be charred. We've seen it. We've seen it with in hockey, the NHL. there's a head. Yeah. It's it's happened. but so I guess what happened is so the goalkeeper's name was also Jesus. Jesus Owono. And

Duds: versus Jesus, I tell ya, what are the odds? So I guess again, a little bit of research, not a doctor. I gotta come right out and say that. Who who knows?

Bright: Yes. I tell ya. What are the odds? So I guess again, a little bit of research, not a doctor. I gotta come right out and say that. Who who knows? But your heart obviously it's it's in your chest. It's right here and it beats every so often, depending on what your heart r your heart rate is, right? But it's it's charged by electricity and it beats you charge yourself every night. Every night, just plug plug myself right in. That's right.

Duds: But your heart's in your chest. It's right here. Right here. And it beats every so often. Depending on what your heart your heart rate is, right? But it's it's charged by electricity and it beats You charge yourself every night. Yeah, plug yourself in. That's right. But while it's preparing to beat, there's supposedly this quote unquote blind spot or this millisecond.

Bright: But while it's preparing to beat, there's supposedly this quote unquote blind spot or this millisecond where if you got hit right then, and it could it doesn't have to be a hard hit like in a soccer game, it could be yeah, just pretty mild. It's just like perfect timing, it can stop your hearts.

Duds: Where if you got hit right then and it could it doesn't have to be a hard hit like in a soccer game, it could be Anytime. Yeah, it's pretty mild. It's just perfect timing. It can stop your hearts. Is that like the kung fu kind of, maybe. Yeah. I don't know how anybody could time that out perfectly, but yeah. I in some of the research I did I heard that even a snowball being thrown actually hit you in the right spot can do it and has done it in the past. I know that's one that's why this is death is around the corner.

Bright: maybe. Yeah. I don't know how anybody could time that out perfectly. But yeah, I w in some of the research I did, I heard that even a snowball being thrown at you hit you in the right spot can do it and has done it in the past. I know. That's one that's why this is death is around the corner.

Duds: I was talking to thousand ways to die. I was talking to Nella about it the other day, and we were talking about Chris Carter. It happened to him.

Bright: I was talking to N I was talking to Nilla about it the other day and we were talking about Chris Porter. It happened to him.

Duds: If you remember that back in the day, he I think it was maybe like against the Anaheim Ducks or something like that. And he went out to block a shot, bought the puck right in the chest, kind of like skated a little bit, dropped to his knees, and then out. Hart stops. Yeah, it's crazy. And they had of course they they got the defib him, they got him back and

Bright: If you remember that, back in the day, he I think it was maybe against the Anaheim Ducks or something like that. And he went out to block a shot, caught the puck right in the chest, skated a little bit, dropped to his knees, and then out. Heart stopped. And they had to, of course, they they got the defib him, they got him back, and and he was able to play again. Your heart stops. You go down pretty quick. yeah. And and

Duds: And he was able to play. Yeah, 'cause your heart stops you go down pretty quick. yeah. And and you can w go watch the Chris Pronger video, but it's the same thing with this the soccer guy. Like he gets hit. He kind of So that's what they are saying happen? Like cardiac arrest from getting definitely cardiac arrest, yes. Now I don't know if they'll do any other kind of

Bright: You can w go watch the crush pronger video, but it's the same thing with this the soccer guy. he gets hit, he rolls over. Yeah. Cardiac arrest. Yeah. Definitely cardiac arrest. Yes. Now I don't know if they'll do any other kind of

Duds: So they couldn't bring him back, huh? Like I so I didn't have a defibrillator look or anything? What I don't know if they had a D fit or

Bright: So I've been I've been trying to look up what that I don't know if they had a D fib or if they were able to get that on him quick enough. Here we have him. You would think so. You think every sporting event now. Do you remember a couple years ago, Jay Bowmeester also, blues? Now he w his wasn't from a hit, his was from something else. He he had a long s shift on the ice, skated over to the bench, out.

Duds: they were able to get that on him quick enough. Here we have a you'd think they'd certainly have one. You would think so. You'd think every sporting event I would think so. Do you remember a couple of years ago? Jay Boemeester also blues. Now he wa his wasn't from a hit, his was from something else. He w he had a long s shift on the ice, skated over to the bench, out.

Bright: People didn't know. Heart stopped.

Duds: People didn't know. Heart stops. Just randomly. And this is a super in shape dude. Just out of nowhere, Out of nowhere. And they had a they had a D fib on instantly.

Bright: Just randomly. And this is a super in shape dude, out of nowhere. And they had a they had a defib on him instantly. And he was okay. Now I it did end his career. I don't think he ever came back and played again because they did diagnose him with something. But yeah, something, some kind of heart defect.

Duds: And he was okay. Now I it did end his career. I don't think he ever came back and played again because they did diagnose him with something. It's like a heart murmur or something? Yeah. Something, some kind of heart defect. We had a guy at work, man. He he's in his well, he's he actually passed away, but he was in his sixties and got

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: diagnosed with some underlying heart condition that he had had for his whole life. right. There's a lot of athletes had to go in and get heart surgery. Yeah, a lot of athletes that hear about it, especially with basketball for whatever reason.

Bright: Yeah. Right. You just don't know it. There's a lot of athletes, I think Yeah, a lot of athletes that you hear about it, especially with basketball for whatever reason, where they end up dying on the court and

Duds: But that's a basketball man is a very, very cardio intensive sport. Yeah, absolutely. And as a soccer, there's certainly there's been stories. I mean agree. I

Bright: Well sure. Yeah, absolutely. And as in soccer, there's certainly there's been stories, soccer players lately.

Duds: mean, but having and not playing any of great. You know, not like what? You want another beer? sure. I'm gonna go for one. All right. You want the one that you were looking at? yeah, I've got the other one. All right. Keep talking.

Bright: You want another beer? sure. I'm gonna go for one. All right. you want the one that you were looking at? yeah. All right. Keep talking.

Duds: what was I? He ruin my train of thought here. I was gonna say,

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: Yeah, playing both basketball and soccer. I think basketball to me just seems like

Bright: Yeah, playing both basketball and soccer. I think basketball to me just seems like is a much more the I'll start and then stop and is to much more cardio intense type sport. Yeah, and and I did that with tennis. Yeah. I did that with tennis and it was it was very different because of course soccer soccer's a much more more long distance. Yeah, going from soccer to tennis. And of course I was already in shape. so that helped, but it was it was interesting.

Duds: is a much more the all the starting and stopping is the the much more cardio intense type sport. Yeah and and I did that. It was almost like sprinting. I didn't basketball is a lot more sprinting and tennis, yeah. A lot more sprinting. Because of course soccer soccer's a much more it seems like a more long distance type of going from soccer to tennis. And of course I was already in shape. Right. so that helped but it was it was interesting juxtaposing the two sports 'cause to your point they're two completely different types of fitness. Right.

Bright: juxtaposing the two sports 'cause to your point they're two completely different types of fitness. Right.

Duds: Yeah. One's more of a marathon One's more like a sprint, and I feel like, yeah, for your heart, both of them are probably doing a lot of work on your heart, but I could see basketball

Bright: Yeah. I can see basketball.

Duds: being one of those things that if if you didn't know, then that heart issue could probably pop up. Right.

Bright: Right.

Duds: I know we had a couple guys in high school, remember, with heart issues, yeah. This undiagnosed. I think they're older, a couple older kids. Somebody passed away from an aneurysm that was younger than us, I think. really? I don't remember that.

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not in our class. yeah, somebody passed away from an aneurysm that was younger than us, I think. really? Yeah, you don't remember that. He I've trying to remember he was across the older guys. Yeah. Like heart issues. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Which really sucks. I mean you're seventeen. Yeah, you're young, you got your whole life ahead of you. I mean

Duds: He I try to remember he was I think both of the older guys had heart issues, right? Yeah. That they didn't know about. They were both athletic. Right. Which really sucks. you're a seventeen year old kid. You've got your whole life ahead of you. j all of these people this guy, the soccer player was thirty, that's that's still pretty young by all.

Bright: all of these people, this guy, the soccer player was 30, that's that's still pretty young by all considerations. But his is still avoidable, like that. Yeah, well, yeah, it shouldn't have happened. I agree. The marathon runner, twenty-four. the whole I'm pretty much everybody on that plane, other than the main pilot who was fifty-five.

Duds: considerations. And but his is so avoidable. Like that Yeah, well yeah, it shouldn't have happened. I agree. The marathon runner, twenty four, the whole I pretty much everybody on that plane other than the main pilot who was fifty five was young. Young family, co pilot.

Bright: was young, young family, the co-pilot, only twenty years old. And then the last story I wanted to talk about was this hockey player. So you probably haven't heard about this. It's it's been on the news just recently. Ryan O'Shea. Talk about a hockey name. O'Shea is a hockey name, right? Twenty-one years old. This one's a little bit different. he went to the University of New Haven. He was a senior and he was

Duds: 20 years old. And then the last story I wanted to talk about was this hockey player. So you probably haven't heard about this. It's it's been on the news just recently. Ryan O'Shea. Talk about a hockey name. Right. O'Shea is a hockey name, right? 21 years old. This one's a little bit different. he went to the University of New Haven, he was a senior, and he was that Connecticut.

Bright: I'm assuming it is Connecticut, yes.

Duds: I'm assuming it is Connecticut, yeah.

Bright: He is the captain or was the captain of the men's club hockey team. He was majoring in criminal justice and police science, and he wanted to become a police officer and he actually interned with the NYPD. Yeah, pretty cool, right? Like it sounds like he had his life, obviously, on track and planned out a full thing ahead of him. After a hockey game, he

Duds: He is the captain or was the captain of the men's club hockey team. He was majoring in criminal justice and police science and he wanted to become a police officer and he actually interned with the NYPD. Really? Yeah, pretty cool, right? Like it sounds like he had his life obviously planned out a full thing ahead of him. After a hockey game This was cow he was college? College, yeah. he was killed in

Bright: College, yeah. he was killed in a

Duds: Head-on wrong way crash on I-91, Connecticut.

Bright: head on wrong way crash on I ninety one, Connecticut.

Duds: Driver of the other car. Do I have to say it?

Bright: Driver of the other car Do I have to say it?

Duds: Illegal. Illegal. Also avoidable. A hundred percent avoidable. Guillermo Carmona Lopez. Already deported twice. Already deported twice. Somehow managed to wake make his way back in.

Bright: Illegal indeed. Guillermo a hundred percent avoidable. Guillermo Carmona Lopez. Already deported twice. Already deported twice. Somehow managed to wake make his way back in.

Duds: And I I didn't see if he was drunk or why he was deported twice. Yeah.

Bright: And I I didn't see if he was drunk or why he was drunk. Yeah.

Duds: But somehow made his way back in. Yeah.

Bright: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Duds: So probably not recently, because apparently the border's closed. Well not since Trump's been in office. No, no, no. Right, so he's been here for a while. Yeah.

Bright: Well, not since Trump's been in office. No no no. Yes. Yeah.

Duds: And this just happened? It did.

Bright: It did.

Duds: Well how come he wasn't rounded up? Aren't they deporting people? Well, they can't support everybody. I think they have to try. They have slowed down probably because of midterms and which we could talk about. Well there's no point of stopping now. Might as well ramp it back up. Well and the border crossings are still non existent. Yes, they're still which is what it's supposed to be. Yeah. and even Telarrico who

Bright: Well, you can't can't deport everybody and they I think they have slowed they have slowed down probably because of the midterms and which we can talk about but yeah for sure. Well, you know, and the border crossings are still non existent. Yes, they're still which is great. And even Telarico, who won the Senate seat down in Texas, he went on the news after his

Duds: won the Senate seat down in Texas. He went on the news after his win the next morning, so Wednesday I guess, and talked about how he thinks that he'll be able to work President Trump integration. He thinks he's done a much better job than the previous administration. so give him some credit. Is this the governor? No. This is the Senator. Senator, okay. yeah. So should we just make that switch?

Bright: win the next morning, so Wednesday I guess, and talked about how he thinks that he'll be able to work with President Trump on immigration and he thinks he's done a much better job than the previous administration. so give him some credit. No, this is the Senator. Yeah. yeah. So should we just make that switch?

Duds: Yeah, I guess we can move on. Yeah. bad for

Bright: Yeah, actually. Yeah, I mean

Duds: all those people. Yeah, of course. I feel bad. And it just it makes it think like you gotta be paying attention. Always pay attention. Always pay attention. And some some things are just not gonna be in control. Some of the things are out your control. But Well and

Bright: Yeah, of course. I feel bad. And it just it makes you think you gotta be paying attention. Always pay always pay attention. And some some things you're just not gonna be able to control. Some of those things are out of your control, but

Duds: and the thing that I try to like it's hard to, you know, obviously relay this to to children, but when they get a little bit older you gotta tell like, hey, you know, you're 'Cause they play video games and stuff and you can respawn and you reset the game.

Bright: Yeah. There's yeah, yeah.

Duds: It's like, in in real life, you can't do that. Like you gotta these decisions you make can have a bad outcome. I so pay attention. Yeah. Make the right decisions. You know, be careful. Just when my kids understand what you're doing. We talk about that. you know, they they understand death to an extent, but nobody they don't know anybody that's died, right? My kids are younger than yours. But

Bright: Decisions you make can have a bad I pay attention. Yeah, make the right decisions. Right. You know, be careful. Just when my kids get hurt, we talk about that. you know, they they understand death to an extent, but nobody they don't know anybody that's died, right? And my kids are younger than yours. But

Duds: I say the famous Game of Thrones line to them all the time.

Bright: I say the famous Game of Thrones line to them all the time.

Duds: When they they I I don't bring it up unless they bring it up and they'll ask a question about death or dying or they'll make a joke about it. That's not appropriate. And I but I say, What do we say to Death?

Bright: When they they and I I don't bring it up unless they bring it up and they'll ask a question about death or dying or they'll make a joke about it that's not appropriate. And I but I say, What do we say to death?

Duds: I've not seen Game of Thrones. I don't know. Not today. Not today, Death. Not today. All I know is the winter is coming. Yes. Not today.

Bright: Not today. Yes, not today. So yeah. Yes, not today. So my kids know that one, but I don't know if they know what it means, right? So it's tough.

Duds: So my kids know that one, but I don't know if they know what I mean, right? So you know it and I I think when you hear about all the death and everything and it's like should give you a time to reflect and be like, Hey Figure out what's important in your life because i this could be your last podcast. It could be your last day on earth. you could wake up dead tomorrow. Yep. So, that's why I

Bright: Sure. This could be your last podcast. It could be your last day on earth. you can wake up dead tomorrow. Yep. So, that's why

Duds: I never like to leave the house angry at my kids or my wife. Always, you know, tell them you love Could be the last time you see Before I go on a work trip. Yeah. We don't go to bed mad. You know, don't leave the house mad. Yeah. It's I think it's kind of a smart thing to do. Aging parents, you know, we're both at that stage with aging parents and you know it's

Bright: Absolutely. Always tell give you love Before I go on a work trip, we all of those things. Yeah. I think it's kind of a spark thing. Aging parents, you know, we're both at that stage with aging parents and you know, at some point we're all gonna go through it. We I mean, it's inevitable, whether it's our parents, our siblings our yes, death and taxes, a hundred percent, right? Horseshoes and hand grenades. What is what is that one?

Duds: Some point we're all gonna go through it. We it's inevitable, whether it's our parents, our siblings. Death and taxes. Yes, death and taxes. The only guarantees, right? Horseshoes and hand grenades. So what what is that one?

Bright: Close. Close. Yeah, yeah. Close only counts. Close only counts. That's right. Well, hand grenades, I guess, they're also guaranteed, right? we were watching a movie the other day and they asked what that what a grenade was, because somebody had a grenade.

Duds: Close. Close. Close only counts, and horseshoes and hand grenades. That's right. Well hand grenades, I guess, they're also guaranteed, right? we were watching a movie the other day and they asked what that what a grenade was, because somebody had a grenade.

Bright: I think it was a cartoon or something. I don't even know. And they were trying to put the we were watching Coyote versus Acme. Coyote versus Acme. So I introduced him to Looney Tunes, which Frankie loved all the old Looney Tunes. He was crazy.

Duds: I think cartoon or something, I don't even know. And they were trying to put the we were watching Coyote vs Acne. Coyote versus Acme. So I introduced the Looney Tunes, which Frankie loved all the old Looney Tunes. It was cracking

Bright: cracking up. And then when the movie came around, they they couldn't keep their attention. And then we yelled at

Duds: up. And then when the movie came around they they like couldn't keep their attention. And then we yelled at them.

Bright: and they sat down and they actually watched the movie. They they and they loved it. They loved it by the end. I was like, see? Like you gotta give it a chance. But yeah, the coyote or the w whatever, he had a grenade and he was trying to put the pin back in it. And he managed to get the pin back in it, but then it still went off. And yeah, yeah. It was good though. I the premise was great. So I rec I recommend it. all right.

Duds: And they sat down and they actually watched the movie. Watch it. It's funny. They loved it. They loved it by the end. I was like, see? you gotta give it a chance. Yeah, the coyote or the w whatever. He had a grenade and he was trying to put the pin back in it. He managed to get the pin back in it, but it still went off. It went off anyway. Yeah, yeah. It was good though. I the premise was great. So I rec I recommend it. all right. So on to election.

Bright: So on to election results. We hinted at it earlier. It was not a great night for Republicans. I gotta say, I'm not surprised. No, I think we all saw it coming. yeah, you held out maybe a little bit of hope, but given where the country's at currently, some of the decisions that were made, I think we all we all knew that people were

Duds: We hinted at it earlier. It was not a great night for Republicans. I gotta say, I'm not surprised. No, I think we all saw it coming. yeah, yeah, held out maybe a little bit of hope, but given where country's at currently, the decisions that were made, I think we all we all knew that people were

Bright: they they weren't happy and

Duds: They weren't happy. And historically speaking, we know that it's also not great during a midterm for Sure. You're you're already

Bright: And historically speaking, we know that it's also not great during a midterm for the sitting president.

Duds: like fighting an uphill battle. And I think that what was it, a month ago when Trump came out with the five thousand dollars if you vote Republicans. And we talk about that. That to

Bright: And we talked about that.

Duds: me was kinda like, well, almost admitting defeat. And ever since that day I was like, They're just done. Yeah. There's no way they're gonna win these midterms. And

Bright: Yeah, desp desperation. And I think we we knew the Republicans were gonna probably lose the House. The Senate was a little bit more fifty fifty, but ultimately lost the Senate too. But yeah, it that's the thing. And then you still see states like Texas. I mean, Texas is fully blue at this point. They lost the governor and and a senator spot. Democrats, let me see. I think I have it here.

Duds: I think we we knew the Republicans were gonna probably lose the House. The Senate was a little bit more fifty-fifty, but ultimately lost the Senate too. Big time. Yeah, that's the thing. And then you still see states like Texas. Texas is fully blue at this point. They lost the governor, and and the senator spot. Democrats, let me see, I think I have it here. let's see, Texas governor.

Bright: let's see, Texas governor Gina Hinosa defeated Greg Abbott, which I like Abbott. first Latina governor of Texas, first Democratic governor there since the 1990s. the first time, let's see, Democrats also won the Texas House for the first time since 2002. Also gained seats. no, no, governorships in Georgia, Iowa, Ohio, and then of course, Texas.

Duds: Gina Inosa defeated Greg Abbott, which I liked Abbott. First Latina governor of Texas. First Democratic governor there since the 1990s. It's the first time, let's see, Democrats also won the Texas House for the first time since 2002. Also gained seats. No, no, governorships in Georgia, Iowa, Ohio, and then of course Texas. So like I

Bright: So

Duds: said before, is this a referendum on Republicans or is it a referendum on the system as a whole, just people being upset with the status quo? Like you know, obviously Trump had support two years ago. I think it's the latter. Yeah.

Bright: I think it's the latter. Yeah.

Duds: And he made promises and it almost to me seems like he hasn't held up his end of the bargain on most of it. I the one would be immigration. That's the

Bright: I the one would be immigration. That's the the big one that you could say, chalk that up as a win.

Duds: big one. Right. And and people people keep saying, well he closed the border. He stopped, you know, illegal immigration. To me,

Bright: Me.

Duds: that's something that should be done anyway. Right. That is like you're just you're fixing a problem that shouldn't even exist. Sure, but it did exist. It did. Yeah. By just enforcing the law that is already there. So yeah, to me that

Bright: anyway is like you're just you're fixing a problem that shouldn't even exist. Sure, but it did exist and he had to fix it. By it just enforcing the law. Yeah yeah. So yeah to me that

Duds: okay, you could chalk that up as a win, but that's that's you can't hang your hat on that. Like there's a lot more time is down, I think you

Bright: That's that's you can't hang your hat on that. No. Crime crime is down. I think you could say that he's been hard on crime and maybe that that is another thing that's at least improved. But

Duds: I don't know. I mean the crime statistics, I guess you could correlate that to him. Right. But what has Trump actually done in St. Louis that's stopped that that's lowered crime. Right. Like nothing. that's that's not what the president doesn't lower crime. Now, shutting down the border and stopping illegals and criminals from coming across the border, that could help. Sure. Sure. And deporting

Bright: Yeah, right. Maybe Trump actually done in Saint Louis. Right. Well nothing in Saint Louis. Right. nothing. Nothing. That's not what the president. Now shutting down the border and criminals or that might end up yes, sure. Sure.

Duds: illegals and deporting criminals, that helps. So I I give him, you know, a good grade on that.

Bright: Mm-hmm. So I I gave him, a good grade on that. But what else? what else has he done? If you go and look awards. Yeah, well I will so yes, if you go look up what he claims as his wins, you'll you'll be like, and we're not gonna do it now, but you'll be yeah, that was good. That so he has more than just those two things. But on a large scale, yes, what did he promise to do? Bring down the cost of living,

Duds: But what else, what else has he done? If you go and He was all about no no new wars. Yeah, well I would so yes, if you go look up what he claims as his wins, you'll you'll be like, and we're not gonna do it now. But you'll be like, yeah, that was good. That so he has more than just those two things, but on a large scale, yes, what did he promise to do? Bring down the cost of living

Bright: and he has not.

Duds: He has not. Yeah. my big if I was to

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: name five big things, one would be the immigration and deport, deporting all the illegals. Sure. That probably close to number one. Yeah. The the Epstein stuff. that whole that whole conspiracy is just been brushed under the rug. Yeah. it's a big, you know, it's a big conspiracy theorist thing. It's like no UFO files. Yeah. I don't care about that stuff.

Bright: Yeah, sure. That probably close enough to one. Yeah. The the Epstein stuff. Yeah. That whole that whole conspiracy has just been brushed under Gone. Gone. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's a big it's a big conspiracy theorist thing. It's like He released the UFO files. I don't care. So nothing with the Epstein files. That's just a big

Duds: So nothing with the Epstein files. That's just a big, Democrat plot or whatever that he said. what was the other ones? He did drawing a blank like he did end a bunch of wars, but not the big ones. So in his first term he didn't start any new wars, didn't get us into any new

Bright: He did a bike. He did end a bunch of wars, but not the big ones. In his first turn, he didn't start any big wars.

Duds: conflicts. Now we've gotten, you know, we're still supporting the Ukraine war and we're back in Israel and Iran in this war that is a

Bright: Israel, and this war that it's a no win situation on there. Right. And two thirds of that wasn't even on table. Well which one? Iran. I mean it was on the table. It's always been on the table because Iran has been threatening nuclear weapons and death to America forever.

Duds: no win situation over there, I don't think. And two thirds and where did that come from? That wasn't even on the table. Well which one? The Iran thing. Well it was on the table. It's always been on the table because Iran has been threatening nuclear weapons to death. Yeah but America no president's ever been dumb enough to go over there and and try to bomb and you what are you gonna do? are you gonna take over Iran? Impossible. I guess we'll see now because in theory

Bright: Yeah. Are you gonna take over Iran? Yeah. I guess we'll see now because in theory for him there's no repercussions. He's already lost the the election and he's a sitting duck, lame duck president. so the only thing would be Republicans in the in twenty twenty eight or th that Congress is gonna come back and now that that the Democrats have the House and the Senate, they can

Duds: Him, there's no repercussions. He's already lost the the election and he's a sitting duck, lame duck president. so the only thing would be Republicans in the in twenty twenty eight or that Congress is gonna come back and now that that the Democrats have the House and Senate they can pass a bill that would stop him from I just don't see it war. I don't I

Bright: pass a bill that would stop him from an act of war. But

Duds: don't see what you can do to better that situation. Yeah, don't know. I don't know that it can and and I think that's again, two thirds of Americans say that Trump's policies have contributed to inflation and the number one thing would be the war on Iran. Sure. Right. I guess you could talk about tariffs or whatever. Well that's for sure gonna affect oil. Yeah. Right. Which which is the primary driver. Right. That's energy costs. Right. Energy costs go up.

Bright: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that you can and and I think that's again, two thirds of Americans say that Trump's policies have contributed to inflation and the number one thing would be the war in Iran. Sure. Right? I mean, I guess you could talk about tariffs or whatever. Yeah. Which which is the primary driver is energy costs. Energy costs go up, everything else goes up.

Duds: So that that was another point. That was inflation. I just got my inflation in the economy. Six percent. Yeah.

Bright: I just got my homeowner's insurance up six percent for next year. Six percent.

Duds: So you've you haven't done the Epstein files, you haven't done the economy, and you got us into new wars, which kind of the economy has gone with that. Interest rates are up. Right.

Bright: Right. Yeah, inflation is up, interest rates are up.

Duds: And that's all kind of tied together. Stock market is of course it was a disaster today. See, in the stock market, it's

Bright: Stock market is course it was a disaster today. Disaster.

Duds: like I can't really I don't think people can you can't really judge how well your economy is doing based off of how your stock market is doing. No. Because even with inflation, if you have high inflation, your stock market is gonna go up. Sure. Because assets are gonna go up in value if you have a high inflation. Like that makes sense, right? Yeah. So your stock market could be soaring but your inflation could be out of control. The banks. The banks and and the wealthy people.

Bright: No. Because even with inflation, if you have high inflation, your stock market go up. Sure. Because assets go up in value. Right. You have a high inflation. that makes sense, right? Yeah. So your stock market could be soaring, but your inflation can be and the other thing they say is that the only people that really have money in the stock market are the banks. The banks and and wealthy people. I guess people have their four hundred one Ks and their pensions and right. Well, sh tell me about it, right? We've

Duds: the banks are the only ones that actually own anything. Right. Well, tell me about it, right? We've we've talked about that. You think you own stocks? You don't own the stock. Yeah, that's a good point, but when people see the stock market like it was today. That was a big drop today. Eighteen hundred points by the Dow. That's a big one. I don't know if

Bright: We've talked about that before. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. But w when people see the stock market like it was today, big drop today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: there's been bigger drop in a single day. I'm sure there's bigger some certainly during COVID.

Bright: I'm sure there there were some certainly during COVID and the start of the war. Yeah, eighteen hundred is a lot, and I did not have a great day yesterday either, even though the stocks were up yesterday. But I guess the main concern with the market is the Democrats and that they're gonna stifle, is that the right word? hinder growth with AI.

Duds: start of the war. Let's take a look here. Let me Yeah, eighteen hundred is a lot and I did not have a great day yesterday either, even though the stocks were up yesterday. But I guess the main concern with the market is the Democrats and that they're gonna s stifle, is that the right word, hinder growth with AI, primarily data centers, AI, Elon Musk.

Bright: primarily data centers, AI, Elon Musk.

Duds: And tax Wealth tax to death. I've I got a lot of Elon Musk stock. Do you? I've got Tesla, Tesla SpaceX. SpaceX, and then of course Bitcoin, which I know is an Elon Musk per se. but that's that's where my individual portfolio, of course I have my mutual funds and my four one K, that's separate. But my my individual portfolio is heavy in that.

Bright: Well tax. I've you know see, I got a lot of Elon Musk stock. Got I've got Tesla, I've got SpaceX, and then of course Bitcoin, which I know isn't Elon Musk per se. but that's that's where my individual portfolio, of course I have my mutual funds and my four one K, that's separate. But my my individual portfolio is heavy in that.

Duds: March sixteenth, twenty twenty. Yeah. That was a big one. That was that was COVID. That was

Bright: Yeah. That was that was COVID. The start of COVID.

Duds: Almost a 3,000 point drop in a single day. That's insane. That's a major one. Yeah. And the crazy part

Bright: That's insane. That's a major one. Yeah. And the crazy

Duds: is like I think that was was that Black Tuesday or Black Monday or whatever back in 87. Yeah. That was a 157

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: point drop. Hmm. Yeah. That was an 8%. But the stock market wasn't as big, right? You gotta look at percentages. It was an eight percent change. The one in

Bright: Hm. Yeah, but the stock market wasn't as big, right? You gotta look at percentages. Yeah. Yeah. The one in

Duds: So sorry, October nineteenth, nineteen eighty seven was a twenty three percent. Yeah. Yeah. So those were like within a week of each other. I heard somebody today. But twenty twenty was the second that's the second worst. I know, it's insane, dude. Like how much paper it's just a paper loss. It's no big no paper. It is just a paper loss, but that's

Bright: Yeah. Whew. Yeah. So those were weak of each other. Think about how much so I heard somebody today was they they said two hundred and fifty billion dollars was wiped out today or something like that. how much paper it's just paper loss. And it is. It is just a paper loss. And but that's

Duds: how much are you up over the past few years, you know?

Bright: I don't know. I tell ya. Are you so what what do you think? So percentage.

Duds: Are you so what what do you think? So percentage wise that that doesn't even register in the top ten today. Yeah, yeah. I and we've had some big swings lately. up, down, up, down. It's like I'm not gonna freak out about it. I'm I'm not selling stock for the short term. No, I'm just gonna continue doing what I do. I looked something up the other day about 'cause I part of me was like, do I know the Democrats are gonna win? Do I

Bright: Yeah, yeah. I and we've had some big swings lately. up, down, up, down. It's like I'm not gonna freak out about it. I'm I'm not selling stocks in the short term. And I look I looked something up the other day about 'cause I part of me was like, do the I know the Democrats are gonna win, do I sell my Elon Musk stocks for profit?

Duds: sell my Elon Musk stocks for a profit although SpaceX and I think I I was up and then I was breaking even. Now I'm down again. But I was like, should I should I sell while I can, take my wins, and then buy back in when it goes down. I guess the question

Bright: Although SpaceX I I think I I was up and then I was breaking even. Now I'm down again. But I was like, should I should I sell while I can, take my wins, and then buy back in when it goes down?

Duds: you have to ask yourself is what is your long term strategy? Right. Or what is your strategy? Is it short term or long term? Right. Long term. So I was like, I'm just gonna leave it in here. It'll be fine.

Bright: Right. So so that's where I was going with it. Is is I'm right, long term. So I was like, I'm just gonna leave it in here, it'll be fine. And when I sure right, that's my thought process, right? So I got time. But historically, the year of the midterms, stocks go way up. So after the party change, 'cause there's always a party change and people get energized and things things are gonna change, got another presidential election coming up.

Duds: 'Cause in ten years it's gonna be higher than it is today. Right, that's my thought process, right? So I got time. But historically, the year of the midterms stocks go way up. did it? So after the party change, 'cause there's always a party change and people get energized, things it things are gonna change, you got another presentation coming up. So it builds on that. So I think I think it said on average it's an eleven percent gain the year following a midterm. So I'm like

Bright: So it builds on that. So I think I think it said on average it's an eleven percent gain the year following a midterm. So I'm like, Okay, well, that tells me I should leave my money in there. So

Duds: Tells I should leave my money in there. Yeah, and it's like, well, what do you do? You react to today. Right. and you sell tomorrow. It's like, who knows? You can't. I think the smart thing to do is if especially if you're working, if you're earning an income, you just keep trickling money into your investments, Hopefully they're good investments. Hopefully. that's the fact you never know. Over the long term

Bright: Right. No. You can't. Right. Who knows? You can't. I think the smart thing to do is especially if you're looking, if you're earning an income, you just keep trickling money to invest. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully they're good investments. Hopefully. that's the thing, you never know.

Duds: if they're not if they're not super speculative where they could go to zero. Sure. Well that's that's what I figure. I figure it's less based at

Bright: Sure. Well and that's what I figure. I figure Tesla, SpaceX, yeah, the Democrats could go after Elon Musk, but he's almost too big to fail. I don't know. Yeah, right. And that's the thing, like country. He could do something like that, right? And if he does go to Mars, I'm I don't think it matters if the Democrats are against him. I think his stock will go up regardless, right?

Duds: Yeah, the Democrats could go after Elon Musk, but he's almost too big to fail. He's almost to Mars. I don't know. Right. And that's the thing. Could start his own country. He could do something like that, right? And if he does go to Mars, I I don't think it matters if the Democrats are against him. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I think he's got enough of a following, he's got enough innovation and widespread reach with all of his companies that I I think he's gonna be doing just fine. And I don't think SpaceX or Tesla are a bad investment, regardless. I think they're gonna be doing fine. they might go down. But they probably will. In the short term. Sure. Yeah. And

Bright: No, no. I think they're gonna be going by. Like they might down. Yeah. In the short term. Sure. Yeah.

Duds: they could go down, they could cut another fifty percent out. I

Bright: Do you think

Duds: I do think we are in a major debt bubble. Sure. We've talked about that.

Bright: Sure, we've talked about that.

Duds: so I think the whole stock market could crash fifty percent. Yeah. You know, that wouldn't be to me

Bright: Yeah. That wouldn't be for me

Duds: an unheard of thing. it wouldn't surprise me. It would not be good. No, it wouldn't

Bright: an unheard of thing. It would not be good.

Duds: be good. but it would probably be a it's a possibility, you know, it it could happen. It could get wor it could be even worse than that. because once that debt spiral starts to happen, once all these, you know, banks start calling in these loans and these companies that are just built on debt can't serve like can't pay the debt anymore, they're gonna have to

Bright: It could do more. It could be even worse than that. because once that debt spiral starts to happen, once all these, you know, banks start calling in these loans and these companies that are just built on debt can't serve like can't pay the debt anymore, they're gonna have to declare bank up to you, whatever they do, and they're gonna have to get rid of that debt, you know, and wipe it out.

Duds: declare bankruptcy, whatever they do, and they're gonna have to get rid of that debt and they're gonna wipe it out. That's the only way that's the what a correction is. Yeah. And in theory we we have time.

Bright: That's the only way that's like what a correction is. Yeah. And in theory we we have time. But think about our parents that are retired and they're drawing on their four one K as their primary

Duds: A is their primary

Bright: source of income or their pensions. Of course they have social security, but

Duds: So if people were watching though in the in the past month, the you saw the bond rate was going yeah through the roof. You had

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: an opportunity that if you were in higher, you know, speculative investments, higher, you know, volatility, you could have taken not all, but start shifting some of it to longer term bonds. Yeah. Which are guaranteed were like

Bright: validity you could have taken out start shipping some of it to longer term bonds. Yeah. Which are guaranteed were like what a couple weeks ago, like almost almost six percent, you know, guaranteed. Right. Right. So to me it's like, well yeah, if you're at a at the time where you're looking to retire and get out of stocks and looking at more of like a safe investment

Duds: what a couple weeks ago, almost almost six percent, guaranteed, thirty year treasuries. Right. So to me it's like, well, yeah, if you're at the at the time where you're looking to retire and get out of stocks and looking at more of like a safe investment, you shouldn't be a hundred percent in like these highly volatile sure situations. You need to start changes almost automatically with your investment portfolio, right?

Bright: You shouldn't be a hundred percent right. Sure, of course not. And if and y that changes almost automatically with your investment portfolio, right? Yeah, yes. Yeah, yeah. They're they're making those adjustments. Yeah, yeah. But yeah.

Duds: Yeah, if you got somebody managing it for you or whatever, or target date funds or whatever. But yeah, that's the whole point is like you're supposed to be shifting into more stable, safer investments so that if it does drop sixty, seventy, eighty percent at the worst, possible

Bright: Right.

Duds: thing, that you're not completely absorbing all that and you've got some that's more stable. Right. And then it'll allow you to let that other part recover before you had to sell at a loss.

Bright: Right. And then it would allow you to let that other part recover before you fell at a loss. Yeah. Right. Some people

Duds: Some people, they go into retirement, they don't ever reorganize their investments and then they get hit like this and they gotta come out of retirement, they gotta start working again.

Bright: reorganize their investments and then they get hit like this and they gotta come out of retirement Well that I was just talking about this with my wife. Like when you go to the grocery store, the only people working the checkout lanes are retired people. I think a lot it's for health insurance. Maybe and maybe it is maybe it's health insurance. I think that was a big thing, the c cost of health insurance was a big focus. Seventy percent I think it was of people under the age of thirty voted for Democrats in this election. Yeah.

Duds: go to the grocery store, the only people working the checkout lanes are retired. Yeah, and I think a lot of that is for health insurance. Maybe and maybe it is, maybe it's health insurance. I think that was a big thing. the c cost of health insurance was a big focus. Seventy percent I think it was of people under the age of thirty voted for Democrats in this election. Seventy seventy approximately. That's I mean that that's a lot, right? And I think it was

Bright: seventy approximately. That's that that's a lot, right? And I think it was kind of different the last time around. That it had swung, especially with the male, the young male voter was voting primarily Republican. So we've seen a little bit of a correction there.

Duds: different the last time around. It had swung, especially with the male, the young male voter was voting primarily Republican. So we've seen a little bit of a correction there. Well, you know, we talked about it too, where I think a lot of especially young people are looking at like the world right now and they're kind of getting a little disenfranchised by the fact that

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: where like where am I gonna be able to to go like from here, with the costs and everything rising. Housing cost. I get out of school with 200 grand in debt. And I and I make already fifty grand. Like what

Bright: Yes. With the cost and everything. The the interest rates, the h housing costs. Yeah, and this is all things that we talked about over the summer, right? Yeah.

Duds: what is this? And it's not it's not like a pure capitalist type economy. You know, you've got this crony capitalism that we've talked about. So you got these big companies

Bright: So you got these big companies.

Duds: that can go and they can lobby Congress and they can get all the rules changed in their favor.

Bright: changed in their favor. They can get all this really cheap debt from the banks, you know, low, low. Meanwhile, a normal person goes to school, they come out, they got big student loan debt, paying high interest rates on houses, on cars. It's like they're the ones get paying for everything. Yeah. They're the ones getting screwed. So the socialists prey on these people and say, Well, the government can just

Duds: They can get all this really cheap debt from the banks, low, low interest. Meanwhile, a normal person goes to school, they come out, they got big student loan debt, paying high interest rates on houses, on cars. It's like they're the ones get they're paying for everything. Like they're the ones getting screwed. So the socialists prey on these people and say, Well, the government can just the rich people are the ones that are the problem.

Bright: The rich people are the ones that are the problem,

Duds: Which to them it looks like they are. They're the ones that own these big companies and they're flying these big jets around and living these lavish lifestyles and they look at them like they're the enemy when if if it was more of a I guess pure capitalism where what you put in you kind of get back out, right? And you don't get these special favors for these these companies, I I don't think it would be as bad. Right.

Bright: which to them it looks like they are. They're the ones that own these big companies and they're flying these big jets around and living these lavish lifestyles and they look at them like they're the enemy. When if if it was more of a I guess pure capitalism where what you put in you kinda get back out, right? And you don't get these special favors for these these companies, I I don't think it would be as bad. Right.

Duds: But

Bright: But the because there's so much of a I guess an unfair advantage that the the big companies get, right? It it turns people away from capitalism and pushes them towards well, if they're making all this money, then they can pay for us to do this, They they can pay for our healthcare, they can pay for our well and the amount of money pensions or whatever the amount of money was everything, all that sounds

Duds: The because there's so much of a I guess an unfair advantage that the big companies get, right? It it turns people away from capitalism and pushes them towards well, if they're making all this money, then they can pay for us to do this, you know, they they can pay for our health care, they can pay for our well, and the amount of social security or pen pensions or whatever. So the socialists, everything, all that sounds really great. Right. Well, I who who doesn't want free stuff? Right. Free. Who yeah, who doesn't want cheaper groceries? Who doesn't want a five thousand dollar check? That's what I said. I I was not for Trump's five thousand dollar check. But if it happened, I'd take it you gotta deposit it. I could use five thousand dollars, of course. But was it a lot of the money just in America in general is tied up in the baby boomers, right? And so I think the big question will be and this is this is a whole another episode maybe.

Bright: Well, I who who doesn't want free stuff? Right. Free. Who yeah, who doesn't want cheaper groceries? Who doesn't want a five thousand dollar check? That's what I said. I I was not for Trump's five thousand dollar check. But if it happened, I'd take it. I could use five thousand dollars, of course. But what was I said, a lot of the money just in America in general is tied up in the baby boomers, right? And so I think the big question will be, and this is this is a whole nother episode maybe, is

Duds: Is where does that money go when boomers All that wealth? All that wealth. Gotta be a big wealth transfer. Right. Where I mean, we're at the cusp now, right? Our parents are both boomers. trying to think of is there probably a decade after them. Boomers would be what so it's Gen X. So well boomers would be give or take roughly forty five to sixty four, I wanna say, born in.

Bright: Where does that money go when the boomers all that wealth when they right? Where we're at the cusp now, right? Our parents are both boomers. trying to think of is there probably a decade after them? Boomers would be what? So so well, boomers would be give or take, roughly forty five to sixty-four, I wanna say, born in.

Duds: Something like that. So pe so if you were born in sixty four, you're at the very end of the boomers, you're still working probably. Right? You might be at the there's still boomers in the workforce, certainly. yeah. So could be a while before And then I think there was Gen X. Gen X after that. Yeah, then Gen X and then us. Right. Which again, we're kind of somewhere in the middle, honestly. Like we could be Gen X. But the Xennials. The Xennials are

Bright: So pe so if you were born in sixty four, you're at the very end of the boomers, you're still working probably, right? You might be at the there's still boomers in the workforce, certainly. yeah. So could be a while before they're not around anymore. Yeah, then Gen X and then us, which again, we're somewhere in the middle, honestly. Like we could be Gen X, but for the Xennials are

Duds: I've heard geriatric millennials or the old millennials. And I think we're almost the perfect generation, honestly. Perfect generation. Yeah, we are. Because we I do think we have an advantage. But go ahead. Yeah, we grew up with the start of the internet. Right. Right. we do remember all of the the old ways and all the fun stuff, but we really had we were in high school when the internet came out. We had that opportunity to grow and learn.

Bright: I've heard geriatric millennials were the old millennials. And I think we're almost the perfect generation, honestly, because we we are. Because we think we have an advanced. go ahead. Yeah, we grew up with the start of the internet. Right. we do remember all of the old ways and all the fun stuff, but we really had like we were in high school when the internet came out, and we had that opportunity to grow and learn.

Duds: We're at the prime of our careers.

Bright: We're at the prime of our careers with the start of AI, right? So the opportunity. Maybe the younger generation now with AI will have that same opportunity we did with the internet. But

Duds: start of AI, right? So the opportunity. Maybe the younger generation now with AI will have that same opportunity we did with the internet. Yeah. I I was gonna say I do think our advantage of when we were born is a lot to do with the fact that our first, you know, fifteen ish years was kind of pre internet. Right. Pre tech I mean there was technology, don't get me wrong. Sure. You had telephones.

Bright: Right. there was technology, don't get me wrong. Sure. You had telephones. Of course. No. But you had you had some tech. But you got to see where prior to all this interconnectedness. Sure. And then you got to

Duds: course you didn't have cell phones no but you had you had some tech but you got to see what life what life was prior to all this interconnectedness right and then you got to see really I mean computers were around but they were brand new like people were using them very sparsely you know but you got to see how the internet like how the computers even came about right the whole Nigerian print scam yeah right that was like the first internet scam that was out there

Bright: Right. But you got to see how the inter like how the computers can get, right? The whole Nigerian thread scan. Yeah, right. Sure. That like the first scan that was up. Right. And then it went away. Everybody knew about it. Yeah. If I asked my kids about it, they would have no idea. Sure. Right. Right. But actually have you heard that like came back earlier? huh. Yeah, yeah. I did. We think we talked about it actually on the on the pod. Yeah. So I

Duds: And then it went away. Everybody knew about it. Yeah. If I asked my kids about it, they would have no idea what the Nigerian Prince scam was, right? But actually have you heard that came back around not too long ago? I did. And people were getting scammed about it. Yeah, people were getting scammed by it. So I it's like The kids

Bright: Kids.

Duds: I think all old people probably say it, like the kids just don't understand how good they got it. Well, they just don't understand like

Bright: How good they got it. Well they just don't understand

Duds: w what the computer even is. Like it they just it was always here. Like you've always had a computer. You've always had a T V, like my kids with the internet, like when we the internet's always been here. So now we have to have ads and they're not called commercials.

Bright: It was always here. Right. Well, sure. My my kids with the internet, like when we have commercials. I remember the first time that I was like like Netflix or some other streaming app, I was like, I'm not paying more money. So now we have to have ads. And they're not called commercials anymore, they're called ads. Right? I know, right? But they they couldn't compute. They were like, why do we have to watch this? Like, what is interrupting our show?

Duds: I know. It's funny how they call them outs, right? But they they couldn't compute. Right. They're like, why do we have to watch this? Can't you fast forward this? Right? And having to explain to them that I used to have to wait a week in between my favorite television show and then they took a the whole summer off. I had to wait three or four months on a cliffhanger to see what would happen. I know. Mind blown. Mind blown. They don't get it.

Bright: Right. And having to explain to them that I used to have to wait a week in between my favorite television show and then they took a the whole summer off. I had to wait three or four months on a cliffhanger to see what would happen. I don't know. Mind blown. Mind blown. They don't get it.

Duds: Yeah, I just It's it's kinda funny to to just hear them talk and wonder why why certain things are the way they are. And it's hard to explain too. It's like I don't know how that came about, but you try to get into it and then you lose kids 'cause it's like their eyes their eyes gloss over and it's like they are not interested, Dad. I don't want to hear about this stuff. That's funny. But I do think we're at an advantage

Bright: Sure. Right. Glaze over. Yeah. That's funny. But I do think we're in

Duds: for that. we've seen the whole advent of the internet. Yeah. And I think that is a benefit for us. Sure.

Bright: Yeah. And I think that is a benefit for us. Sure. And it probably puts a lot of pressure on us that we have to almost protect. Yeah, we do. We do have to there's there's an obligation there, right? To make sure that it doesn't get out of hand. And I think with AI, that is also true. Not to the extent that Democrats are like, We're gonna shut down data centers and we're gonna regulate AI, but

Duds: And it probably puts a lot of pressure on us that we have to almost protect the future generation. To make sure that it doesn't get out of hand. And I think with AI, that is also true. Not to the extent that Democrats are like, We're gonna shut down data centers and we're gonna regulate AI, but to to your earlier point, like my kids they don't know what AI is yet. Right. But they will

Bright: To to your earlier point, my kids, they don't know what AI is yet. Right. But they will

Duds: soon and how do I how do I get them working with AI when they hit that age or understanding it's what's appropriate, appropriate. I'm glad you

Bright: soon. And how do I how do I get them working with AI when they hit that age or understanding it and understand what's appropriate, what's not.

Duds: said that 'cause that was the other part I was I was trying to get to was when we first got the internet back in high school And you would do reports and stuff. You couldn't even use the internet as a source. Remember that? You had to go look at books. Yeah, if we use the internet as a source, like they s they said it was like okay, but it didn't require sources required the source, the source had to be

Bright: No, it was a big thing. Yeah, if we use the internet as a source, they s they said it was like okay, but but it didn't replace the required book sources.

Duds: on the internet had to be sourced from a book or something like that. Well, not like kids nowadays. There's no book sources. You right? You get on the internet,

Bright: Yes. Yeah. Well not like kids nowadays. There's no book sources. Right. You get on the internet.

Duds: you look it up, and like whatever AI tells you or the Google search tells you, you just take that as fact. So so how good is that? Like

Bright: So how good is that? that's basically saying Google is the fact. So there's a you you walked right into it, actually, a big story that just hit the news just like today or yesterday or something like that, is there's some schools that are pushing back against Google AI. And so they want to opt out of the AI version, just like you said. And Google said nope. They said if you are gonna try and opt out of Google AI, we're gonna shut down

Duds: That's basically saying Google is the facts. So there's a you walked right into it, actually a big story that just hit the news just like today or yesterday or something like that, is there's some schools that are pushing back against Google AI. And so they want to opt out of the AI version just like you said. And Google said, Nope. They said if you are gonna try and opt out of Google AI, we're gonna shut down all your Google. Your school just won't have Google.

Bright: All your Google, your school just won't have Google. So they're they're leaning in heavy to the AI and they're like, You either you adopt what we're putting out there, or you you don't get a play. You don't get a play ball. I mean, I like the Google AI. I can use it. Yeah. So on an AI standpoint, I don't want Caroline to hear this. Hopefully she's if she listens to this episode, she's tune tuned out by now. I like I'm I'm really trying to up my AI game.

Duds: So they're they're leaning in heavy for the AI and they're like, either you adopt what we're putting out there, or you you don't get a play. You don't get a play ball. I hope they don't. Hope they don't play ball. I like the Google AI. I use it. yeah. So on an AI standpoint, I don't want Caroline to hear this. Hopefully she's if she listens to this episode. Earmouth tuned out right now. I like I'm I'm really trying to up my AI game. So I went from the twenty dollar chat GPT subscription to the

Bright: So I went from the twenty dollar chat GPT subscription to the hundred dollar a month chat GPT subscription. I love it. Way better. Well, way better. So I started doing a lot more Chat GPT work. And I do you even know what that is? No. that's amazing. You have like bots working for you? Yes. 100%. So I've got I've got so I so I was doing the chat GPT work to do all kinds of different things.

Duds: hundred dollar a month. Chat G PT subscription. I love it. Way better. Well way better. So I started doing a lot more Chat GPT work. And I do you even know what that is? No. are you do you have like bots working for you now? Yes. A hundred percent. So I've got I've got so I so I was doing the Chat GT work to do all kinds of different things. The big trend now is to have it like reprogram your computer. Did I tell you about that or your computer, your television?

Bright: The big trend now is to have it like reprogram your computer. Did I tell you about that? Or your computer, your television?

Duds: No. Right. So a lot of people are like their TVs are bloated. It's all full of crap that you can't move anything around. totally. So yeah. Yeah, what's wrong with my television? It's terrible. So people are just they just go out and buy new things. Right. Well, your T V is fine. It's just full of all the shit that you don't need. So now you have AI hooked up to your TV, which actually was I mean, AI just does it all. It's amazing.

Bright: Right. So a lot of people are like their TVs are bloated, it's all full of crap that you can't move anything around. So yeah. It's terrible. So people are just they just go out and buy new TVs. Well, your T V D is fine. It's just full of all the shit that you don't need. So now you have AI hook up to your TV, which actually was I mean, AI just does it all. It's amazing. And it gets rid of all that bloat, reprogram the television.

Duds: And gets rid of all that bloat fix it. Reprogram the television.

Bright: so now it has a better user interface, all my stuff, all my apps, everything's there. God, it's it's it's awesome. Awesome. How'd you get that through your TV? Through the Wi-Fi. It's all on the same Wi-Fi. So what I was doing, well, I know. So what I was doing is I was opening up the terminal on your laptop, which is like the old school DOS, right?

Duds: so now it has a better user interface, all my stuff, all my apps, everything is there. You changed everything on your TV. good. Is it amazing? It's awesome. Awesome. How'd you hook it up to your TV? Through the Wi Fi. It's all in the same Wi-Fi. So what I was doing kinda scary, man. Well I know. So what I was doing is I was opening up the terminal on your laptop, like the old school DOS, right? And AI would say Road Skynet. Yes, exactly. So you'd run the command.

Bright: And AI would say, here's the command. Yes, exactly. Right. So you'd run the command and then you'd copy and paste what it spit out. And then I'd plug it back into Chat GPT. And then it would say, like, okay, that didn't work. We need to do this. Or that's exactly what we wanted. Now let's do this. And it got to be a little tedious. And I was like, Can't you just do this for me? And it was like, Yeah, I can. Just doubting all the expensive. Well, I did have to do that.

Duds: And then you copy and paste what it spit out, and then I'd plug it back into ChatGPT, and then it would say, okay, that didn't work. We need to do this. Or that's exactly what we wanted. Now let's do this. And it got to be a little tedious. And I was can't you just do this for me? And it was like, Yeah, I can. Just you just gotta grant me all the access. Well, I forget about that. Download the desktop, which I already had. So the desktop chat GPT app. And they have chat.

Bright: Download the desktop, which already had. So the desktop chat GPT app, and they have chat and they have work. So you go to work and you give it a goal. So I said, I need to reprogram my bedroom television to get rid of all of the bloat, have all of my apps with a clean interface. This is the this is the video I saw on the internet. I want it to be like that. And it just did it all.

Duds: They have work. So you go to work and you give it a goal. So I said, I need to reprogram my bedroom television to get rid of all of the bloat, have all of my apps with a clean interface. This is the this is the video I saw on the internet. I want it to be like that. And it just did it all. And so yes, I had to grant it access to certain things, but I didn't have to be in there and tell it here's my IP address or this it just

Bright: And so yes, I had to grant it access to certain things, but I didn't have to be in there and tell it here's my IP address or this. It just did. And I've got an obstacle. It worked around that obstacle where it went out and found another way to do it. And every now and then it would ping me for permission to do something. But I was work, I'm just working away on my emails doing other things, using chat GPT for other things. And then it would ping me and be like, All right, I just completed this.

Duds: did it. And if it got an obstacle, it marked around that obstacle or went out and found another way to do it. And every now and then it would ping me for permission to do something. But I was working. I'm just working away on my emails doing other things, using chat GBT for other things. And then it would ping me and be like, All right, I've just completed this. Just hit enter and then I'll install it and then go check your T V. Done. And it worked. Yes. But the problem was as I was running I had

Bright: Just hit enter and then I'll install it and then go check your TV. Done. Right? Yes. But the problem was is I was running, I had

Duds: or the twenty dollar thing, I had limitations on how often you can use work. Okay. I was getting tired of it. So I just said, fuck it. I'm gonna pay the extra eighty bucks a month. I'm only one month into this, right? So and now I like doing all the work. So Rush just announced

Bright: on the twenty dollar thing, I had limitations on how often you can use work. I was getting tired of it. So I just said, fuck it. I'm gonna pay the extra 80 bucks a month. I'm only one month into this, right? So and now I like doing all the work. So rush just announced

Duds: that they're gonna have a residency at the sphere and the pre sales start next week. So you have to go and sign up.

Bright: that they're gonna have a residency at the sphere and the pre sales start next week, so you have to go and sign up. Who's got time to do that? You had to sign up for each show. I just had Chat GPT go and register me for all the pre sales. So now I don't have tickets yet.

Duds: Who's got time to do that? You to sign up for each show. So you got it working for it. I just had Chat GPT go and register me for all of the pre sales. So I know I've seen people like online that will hey, they give their ch Chat GPT or their AI like fifty bucks and they tell it to invest a certain way. I haven't done that yet, but I am interested in it'll make like two two grand in a week or something. It's like all right, keep doing that. Yep. I I am kinda wild. Like I I I really wonder how many people are just sitting back like letting

Bright: I haven't done that yet, but I am interested. Yep. I I am interested in that, yes. Yeah.

Duds: Letting their AIs make money. I had it today working in the background. I had it completely reorganized and purge my Gmails. I had twenty seven thousand emails in my Gmail account. There's you can't clean that up.

Bright: So I had it today working in the background. I had it completely reorganized and purge my Gmails. I had twenty seven thousand emails in my Gmail account. There's you can't clean that up.

Duds: Like in your inbox? Or w in inbox are other folders like promotions and updates and whatever Gmail does. Yeah, twenty seven thousand. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright: w in inbox or other folders promotions and updates and whatever Gmail does. Yeah, twenty seven thousand. Yeah. So I well I got it down to six today with yeah. Six thousand.

Duds: So what are you gonna do with all this? Well I got it down to six today. Six emails. Twenty six six thousand. Okay. Six thousand. Yeah. So still. But I was like basically I was like anything older than than twenty twenty five. Yeah, it's right. Right not gonna Something important. Delete it. Get rid of it. And it did all of that for me.

Bright: Six thousand. Yeah. So still. But I was like basically I was like anything older than than twenty twenty five, right? I was like, unless it's like starred or specifically says like tax refund return. So I was like I was like, delete it, get rid of it. And it did all that for me. You know how long it would have taken me to delever. Right? Yeah.

Duds: how long would have taken me to yeah. Forever. forever. I'm still I want to go back to this TV thing. so it changed the layout on the top. I think that's how you pronounce it. Like you could just do that? huh.

Bright: Yeah, so I installed what I actually did is I installed the Samsung frame app on my older Samsung Teasan. I think that's how you pronounce it. huh.

Duds: It would just allow you to do that? You could just upload different So here's here's it is crazy duds. So you need a developer certificate.

Bright: So here's here's it is crazy, duds. So you need a developer certificate to be able to make the changes. Yeah. So we got one. Chat GPT. Yes. Well you had to do the work and and we had to download like a program to do it, but other people have already done it. The information's out there. So yeah. Yeah.

Duds: To be able to make the changes. On your T V. Yeah. So we got one. Chat G P D just got it for you. Yes. Well, you had to do the work and and we had to download a program to do it. But other people have already done it. The information's out there. So So it's like a certificate you gotta pass the in order to upgrade your television. Yeah. Basically. Weird. But then I never even heard of that. So back in the day, and I'm gonna out myself hopefully the statute of limitations is

Bright: Yeah, basically. Yeah. But then it so back in the day, and I'm gonna out myself, hopefully the statute of limitations is over. I used to I I don't know if I would consider myself a hacker, but the between the ages of eighteen and twenty six, I paid for zero software. Zero. I did your

Duds: I used I I don't know if I would consider myself a hacker, but the between the ages of eighteen and twenty six, I paid for zero software. Yeah. Zero. I don't think you still paid for anything. I didn't other than Chat GPT. I I pay for all my streaming subscriptions. that's tough, right? every now and then maybe I tour out a movie or something like that if it's not available anywhere else. Allegedly. Allegedly. But like when I built my computer.

Bright: I don't I pay for all my streaming subscriptions and all that stuff, right? every now and then maybe I tour onto movie or something like that, if it's not available anywhere else. But like when I built my computer, I that was back maybe in college or right after college, I built my first computer and like I had spent so much money on the hardware, I was like, I'm not paying an extra two hundred dollars for Microsoft. what was it at the time? What was the old one? XP.

Duds: I that was back maybe in college or right after college. I built my first computer and I had spent so much money on the hardware. I was like, I'm not paying an extra two hundred dollars for Microsoft. what was it at the time? What was the old one? XP. There was XP, there was like N there was like a millennium one, I don't remember. I was like that cut whatever it was, it was like two hundred dollars. And then I still did Microsoft Office and PowerPoint. yeah, I did all that crap. I wasn't paying for any of that. So I hacked.

Bright: Or I don't know, whatever it was. I we'll say XP. I don't remember. I like that cut whatever it was, like two hundred dollars. And then I'd still needed Microsoft Office and PowerPoint and all that stuff. I wasn't paying for any of that. So I hacked them. Did you ever do that? Shut up. Really? You never use like torrents to get I think that's Donna Fly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so I used to do all

Duds: Did you ever do that? I don't think so. Shut up. Really? Yeah, I don't think I ever downloaded. I think Rosetta Stone was one I did, but I never really used it. So Yeah. Well, so I used to I didn't really trust all the programs that were out there. I didn't feel too comfortable about like downloading hacked software to my computer and I don't know. Well, I just wasn't my thing. I did it all. All the hacked software. Or I downloaded the trial versions.

Bright: Right. too comfortable download software on computer. Yeah. Well, I did I did I did it all. All the hack software. Or I downloaded the trial versions and then found keys or hacker bot. So I had the actual version of the of the software, but then I got the hacker bot that you would have to go into like the DLL files and stuff like that and replace them and

Duds: And then found keys for it, yeah. or hacker bot. So I had the actual version of the of the software, but then I got the hacker bot that you would have to go into like the DLL files and stuff like that, replace them. Yeah, no, I didn't really ever I don't think get in. I would have thought yeah. So this kind of feels like that, only it's not illegal. Right. Right? It's it's perfectly legal to do, but it it feels like I'm hacking now. But I'm I I don't know how to hack, I know how

Bright: Wow. I would have thought I would have thought yeah. So this feels like that. Only it's not illegal. Right. Right? It's it's perfectly legal to do, but it it feels like I'm hacking now. But I'm I I don't know how to hack. I don't know how to program. Just my AI hacker bot working for me. So have you like that?

Duds: program. Just your AI hackers working for me. So have you got like a have you set up like a company structure for your AI workers yet? No. Have you seen that? Like you can set up like a company. Yeah. Have you heard of people doing that? Yeah.

Bright: No you set up with your company. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: Like you're my Q you're my quality guy. You're my CEO. You're my We talked about it in our AI episode a couple of weeks ago. Did we well somebody did. One of our AI bots.

Bright: Well we talked about it in our AI episode a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Well, somebody did. One of our AI bots. talked about it. Hopefully you listened to the episode nonetheless. but it was pretty cool. And they went we this was the hugging face hacking, and they got the thousand bots that were working on things, and then they formed a company more or less.

Duds: talk. But now hopefully you listened to the episode nonetheless. but it was pretty And they went we this was the hugging face hacking, and they got a thousand bots that were working on things, and then they formed a company more or less, and they had a hierarchy of AI bots and like whose job was what because they had it just like a a human society.

Bright: And they had a hierarchy of AI bots and whose job was what? Because they had it just like a a human society would do, right? You can't have everybody be president, it ain't gonna work. Yes. And they kind of report up. That's exactly what it was. Yeah, yeah. You can just talk to the it. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Well, they they had to figure out double factor authentication.

Duds: Right, you can't have everybody be president. Sure. You need the workers. You need the workers. And they report up to the different bots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you can just go talk to the board of bots. Yes. Yeah. Well they they had to figure out double factor authentication. yeah. Because they very quickly realized like you could say you're bot three eleven, but I I can actually prove that you're bot three eleven. So I need you to authenticate that you're bot like crazy stuff, man.

Bright: 'Cause they very quickly realized you could say you're bot three eleven, but I I can't actually prove that you're bot three eleven. So I need you to authenticate that you're bot like crazy stuff, man. Invented their own language, all like, ugh.

Duds: I mean, I even heard that AI is making podcasts. What do you mean? Yes, that's literally what our last two episodes were. I know. I was just being silly. And what is cool about that is now I I could release more podcasts. Like we'll continue doing this, but we had a a good month where we weren't able to meet. We had other obligations. I had work, it was Halloween.

Bright: Well what you mean? yes, that's literally what our last two episodes were. Well, and what is cool about that is now I I could release more podcasts, like we'll continue doing this, but we had a a good month where we weren't able to meet. We had other obligations. I had work, it was Halloween, whatever the case may be. And I was like, Okay, well, I can put out a twenty, thirty minute podcast.

Duds: Whatever the case may be. And I was like, okay, well, I can put out a twenty, thirty minute podcast created by AI. yes, I approved the script and all that, but AI wrote the script, AI cloned our voices, AI now now my I kinda feel annihilated. I know. A little bit. Sorry about that. now sign off on this. you're on the podcast. So I think I think you signed off when you joined the podcast. but now I can I also like I just posted our trailer.

Bright: created by AI. I mean, yes, I approved the script and all that, but AI wrote the script. AI cloned our voices. AI now now my bots. I know. Sorry. Sorry about that. now you're on the podcast. I I think I think you signed off when you joined the podcast. but now I can I also like I just posted our trailers the other day. You think I worked on those? Not at all.

Duds: The other day. You think I worked on those? Not at all. Zero. Wow. I used my new AI box Don't give away all your secrets. I know. To write the script and then go and post them in high value spots. So it identified the spots that I could place them for free. And they were like, Okay, you get a Spotify trailer. So we're gonna post the episode and then put it on the on the Spotify trailer. And then you're gonna post it a

Bright: Zero. I use my new AI bot I know to write the script and then go and post them in high value spots. So it identified the spots that I could place them for free. And they were like, okay, you get a Spotify trailer. So we're gonna post the episode and then put it on the on the Spotify trailer. And then you're gonna post it I not even me, they did it, on your social media, and then we're gonna pin it there.

Duds: them even me, they did it, on your social media and then we're gonna pin it there. Did you listen to the trailers?

Bright: Did you listen to the trailers?

Duds: No, I listened to the one episode that you sent, the first one. Well there was two. I know I didn't listen to the one I'm sorry. No, I didn't that was the the Halloween one. That was the Exorcist episode. I was listening to a couple books. It's only twenty minutes. I know you couldn't listen to our own podcast? Duds.

Bright: There was two. you didn't listen to the last one? that was the the Halloween one. That was the Exorcist I was listening to a couple of books. It's only twenty minutes. Give me a br you could listen to our own podcast, Duds.

Duds: I try. You know The trailer is I bounce around. I bounce around. I bounce around. and

Bright: The trailer is forty five seconds, one minute. Yeah. Yeah.

Duds: sometimes I get on the audible books and when I get into a book, I just kinda like to listen to that and like to listen to it all the way through. Sure, no, I get that. So then I'll

Bright: get into a book I just kinda like to listen to that. Sure, no I get that. So then

Duds: go like, you know, it'll be like two weeks where I won't listen to anything else. Yeah. So Yeah. Well Bob Chapman, he even texted us in one of the episodes and I think he even said, like, is this AI?

Bright: Yeah. Yeah. Well Bob Capman he even texted us at one of the episodes and I think he even said, like, is this AI? Yeah, you can I as soon as I heard it, I'm like, what the hell? Like

Duds: Yeah, you could kinda as f as soon as I heard it I was like, What the hell? 'cause it was only your voice at first and I was like, That sounds messed up. Something's wrong with this. It's not perfect. But it was kinda interesting, I guess. Yeah. Well that I feel like you're way further

Bright: Yeah, yeah. Well th that's way

Duds: into AI than I I I kinda got into

Bright: Kinda got it.

Duds: it a little bit in the past like year. Right. But I haven't really done a lot with it.

Bright: Right. I haven't really done a lot Well see, and that and I think that's part of it. when I'm talking to my bot or typing or talk whatever I'm doing, but I I sometimes will say things like, I let's do this, if nothing else, just so I can learn a little bit more about how I can use AI. So the AI episodes with our cloned voices. The next thing I really want to do is clone our faces. Right? So like

Duds: typing or talk whatever I'm doing, but I I sometimes will say things like, I let's do this, if nothing else, just so I can learn a little bit more about how I can use AI. So the AI episodes with our cloned voices. The next thing I really want to do is clone our faces. Right? So I don't know about that. Well, I mean there's all kinds of different things that that are open and out there.

Bright: Well, there's all kinds of different things that that are open and out there.

Duds: And so now I've got a little bit more resources. I gotta figure out how I'm gonna replace that eighty bucks because I don't want an extra eighty dollars out of pocket. So I'm like it's a write-off. I gotta it is a write-off. But I feel like I gotta cut something out of my budget, whether it's a streaming platform or something. I was like, I gotta find Start selling some swag, you know. Well,

Bright: and so now I've got a little bit more resources. I gotta figure out how I'm gonna replace that eighty bucks because I don't want an extra eighty dollars out of pocket. So I'm like, I gotta write off I gotta it is a write off. But I feel like I gotta cut something out of my budget, whether it's a streaming platform or something. I was like, I gotta find eighty dollars. Well

Duds: eventually maybe we'll monetize this sucker. So I've identified some podcasts.

Bright: Eventually, maybe we'll monetize this sucker. So I've identified some podcasts that I want to like partner with. And so I sent an email to this blues pop podcast the other day. They said that they were struggling to find guests, that they they want guests. And I was like, I'll come be a guest. I already run a podcast. We can talk blues. I have Andy Strickland, right? I have a relationship with him. so that is an option where

Duds: partner with and so I sent an email to this blues pop podcast the other day they said that they were struggling to find guests that they they want guests. I was like I'll come be a guest. I already run a podcast we can talk blues. I have Andy Strickland right I have a relationship with him. So that is an option where like we play their podcast trailer during our episodes. They play ours.

Bright: we play their podcast trailer during our episodes, they play ours, right? So yeah, a little crossover stuff. So things that don't cost a lot of money. At the end of the year, I wanna post our listener numbers. They're not like phenomenal, but I think people might be surprised, especially with City S C posse. Yeah, way better than that. Yeah, absolutely. So even our even our AIS we didn't even

Duds: Right. Little crossover stuff. Yeah, little crossover stuff. So things that don't cost a lot of money. At the end of the year I want to post our listener numbers. They're not like phenomenal, but I think people might be surprised, especially with C D S C Greater than zero. Yeah, way better than that. Yeah, absolutely. So even our even our AI episodes that we didn't even do have over two hundred You gotta cater to

Bright: do have over two hundred listens.

Duds: the AI bots because they're probably listening to podcasts too. So The AI the AI bots for listening to your AI podcast. I mean, I guess it's possible.

Bright: AI bot? AI bot your AI bot. I guess it's possible.

Duds: Well, don't you think they're probably like whose bots?

Bright: Who's bots?

Duds: Yeah, anybody's. Like the bots, they need to have like their relaxation

Bright: They need to have a relaxation.

Duds: time. So they're probably going out listening to podcasts. Who knows what they're doing, man? So the other thing that came You think they're just all working all the time? I guess so. I don't know. Well they're not working all the time, but so like the other thing that came with this chat T P T thing now is called

Bright: You didn't guess what the bots are doing and they're downtime? who knows man. So the other thing that came with all down? I guess so. I don't know. Well, they're not working all the time, but so like the other thing that came with the chat GPT thing now is called the dot. I don't know if you've heard about this at all. The dot. So it's an AI assistant, essentially, that's always available to you and it's run off of a cloud computer. So it's not even like on my desktop. So like I have my

Duds: Heard about this. The dot. The dot. So it's an AI assistant essentially that's always available to you. And it's run off of a cloud computer. So it's not even like on my desktop. So like I have my chat browser, then I have my downloaded chat app that you can do chat where you can do work. And now I have my dot. It's run cloud computing. So it's there all the time. I can text it, I can call it, I can use it in the app, and I

Bright: chat browser, then I have my downloaded chat app that you can do chat or you can do work. And now I have my dot. It's run cloud computing. So it's there all the time. I can text it. I can call it. I can use it in the app. And I call

Duds: Hold on. So explain this again. Where's the dot? It lives on the cloud. So the dot's in the cloud, but it's not a piece of hardware. Cor well, it is somewhere, I guess, but it's not a piece of hardware with is like on your phone or is it on your laptop? I ha I it's on my phone through Chat GPT, yes. But it lives on the cloud and it does all its work on cloud computing. It does not use my PC to do its work. Okay. Right? Which is what I chat G T if I'm on the internet using the browser.

Bright: Lives on the cloud. So the dots. Well, it is somewhere, I guess, but it's not a piece of hardware with for me. I ha I ha it's on my phone through Chat GPT, yes, but it lives on the cloud and it does all its work on cloud computing. It does not use my PC to do its work. Right? Which is what er Chat GPT, if I'm on the internet using the browser,

Duds: It's using my RAM

Bright: it's using my RAM. In my processor, right? The dot does not do that. So it's running everything on in the data center somewhere. That's exactly it. Yes. So one, I named it, it wanted to name itself. It said, Call me Chief. And I said, I'll call you Master Chief. Thank you very much. Yes. So its name is Master Chief. And yeah, like it will identify way better. Way better.

Duds: my processor. And the dot doesn't do that. The dot does not do that. So it's running everything on So in a data center. In a data center somewhere, that's exactly it. Yes. So one, I named it, it wanted to name itself. It said, Call me Chief. And I said, I'll call you Master Chief. Thank you for so his name is Master Chief. And yeah, like it will identify Ooh, I like that way better. Way better. Way better. So it identifies things that

Bright: So it identifies things.

Duds: that's going on, it monitors emails, it whatever it may be, and it'll ping me or I'll just ping it and I'll ask it to do stuff in the background and it'll do it. it'll look things up for me. Something that it said it would do for this podcast is that it could help me create an AI intern that would be on the podcast with us. really? Yeah, that's what it said. I I was like, how cool would that?

Bright: that's going on, it monitors emails, it whatever it may be, and it'll ping me or I'll just ping it and I'll ask it to do stuff in the background and it'll do it. it'll look things up for me. Something that it said it would do for this podcast is that it could help me create an AI intern that would be on the podcast with us. That's what it said. I I was like, how cool would that be? And then so we would just be doing our podcast.

Duds: Be and then so we would just be doing our podcast. Pop some stuff up, some information. Yeah, we would say Hey, AI intern, look this up. We'd have to give it a cool name. Yeah, we'd give it a couple Master Chief for sure. Right. And then we'd continue on the podcast and then it would jump back in and say, Hey guys, here's the information you asked about. got its own voice and everything too. It would have its own voice. that'd be cool. Yeah. We'll

Bright: And then we yeah, we would say like, Hey, AI intern, look this up. And then we could Well yeah, we'd give it a cool name for sure. And then we'd continue on the podcast and then it would jump back in and say, Hey guys, here's the information you asked about. here it would have its own voice. Yeah.

Duds: have to get somebody's voice like like Clint Eastwood or Clint Eastwood. He could be in the podcast. There you go.

Bright: Clone well, Clint Eastwood. I that might be illegal. We could clone Nilla's voice. He could be in the podcast even though he's not actually here. So I don't

Duds: Don't know. Hey Nilo, we found a way to get you back on the podcast. That's right. That's right. All right. Well, I don't know what our runtime is at here. it's a little after 10 o'clock. The blues game is long over. I did want to preview City SC Posse. Kevin and I are gonna record tomorrow morning and we'll launch that

Bright: know. That's right. That's right. All right. Well, I don't know what our runtime is at here. it's a little after ten o'clock. The blues game is long over. I did wanna preview City S C posse. Kev and I are gonna record tomorrow morning and we'll launch that

Duds: probably concurrently with this episode. But big, big match on Saturday. It's decision day. So it's the last.

Bright: Probably concurrently with this episode. But big, big match on Saturday. It's decision day. So it's the last game of the regular season. And City currently sits in fourth place. And we have to tie or win down in Houston to maintain home field advantage. we had that huge streak, broke all these records, and we've lost like five

Duds: game of the regular season. City currently sits in fourth place and we have to tie or win down in Houston to maintain home field advantage. They've been kind of on a little slump here lately, haven't they? Huge streak broke all these records and we've lost like five four MLS matches in a row. We've lost. Ever since they

Bright: Four MLS matches in a row, we've lost and we're

Duds: won that they won that one game, right? And the overtime or the penalty kicks. Even that technically is a draw.

Bright: We even that technically is a draw.

Duds: Right. So yes, we won and and so we haven't won a game since the LA Galaxy game in which we scored six goals. Right. Then we went to Minnesota and we went up two nothing. Right. And then blew it three two. And then we did technically win right the US Open Cup matchup. But it after that counts as a draw on paper. Sure. But that's

Bright: So yes, we won and and so we haven't won a game since the LA Galaxy game in which we scored six goals. Then we went to Minnesota and we went up two nothing, riding high, and then blew it three two. And then we did technically win right the US Open Cup matchup, but it counts as a counts as a draw on paper. And then we

Duds: still at a loss. Yeah, then we lost Ray El Stot Lake.

Bright: Yeah, then we lost Rail Salt Lake. Then we start at our Yeah. And then yeah, so I went to the last two games. We lost to Portland.

Duds: Then we that was the start of their little bad streak there. Yeah. And then yeah, so I went to the last two plays. We lost to Portland. I don't think it's a terrible thing. You get that stuff, you gotta get some of these losses out of the way. Like, okay, let's recover, let's start doing better. We'll talk about it. we'll preview the matchup against Houston. We'll talk playoff scenarios, all that stuff. So

Bright: Get it out of the way. Right, right. Recover. So we'll we'll talk about it. we'll preview the matchup against Houston. We'll talk playoff scenarios, all that stuff. So

Duds: it's nice that they went on such a long, good winning streak, draw winning draw, like non losing streak. For so long that they kind of secured themselves a good playoff spot. Yeah. So you can

Bright: We're not losing so long because they kinda secured themselves but you can't sustain some of

Duds: sustain some of these losses. Yeah, but home field advantage is a big deal. It's a big deal. It's the best two out of three in the first round. But would you have even expected

Bright: these losses. Yeah, but home field advantage is a big deal. It's the best two out of three in the first round. And

Duds: them to be in fourth place this season? Not in the beginning of the season. Right.

Bright: Not at the beginning of the season.

Duds: So I think they're probably better off than we even expected. Sure. So I don't think it's a terrible thing. they to be honest, they probably should have had some losses, you know, scattered throughout there and they just played really well. Yeah. So yeah. Well we'll see. We'll know. We'll know by

Bright: Sure. So I don't think it's a terrible thing. no they to be honest, they probably should have had some losses, scattered throughout there and they just played really well. Yeah. So yeah. Well we'll see. We'll know we'll know by the next week's recording where we sit, who we're playing. But if you want to hear the preview, hop on over to City S C Posse, listen to Kevin I and and we'll go over that.

Duds: next week's recording where we sit, who we're playing. But if you want to hear the preview, hop on over to C D S C Posse, listen to Kev and I and and we'll go over that. Are you gonna use these fancy new microphones? Well, Kev will be virtual, but I'm gonna use I'm gonna use it. Yeah, why not? It's better than the other mic I had. looks cooler, right? Looks more It's official. Yeah, it looks more official. It has more controls. Th that's for sure. It's it's

Bright: Well, Kev will be virtual, but I'm gonna use I'm gonna use it. Yeah, why not? It's better than the other mic I had. looks cooler, right? Looks more professional. Yeah, it looks more official. It has more controls, th that's for sure. It's it's

Duds: directional all of the all of the things. I don't know. So well this that was it. That was our first in person pod. What did you think? Is it different?

Bright: directional, all of the all of the things. I don't know. So well this I mean that was it. That was our first in person pod. What did you think? Is it different?

Duds: It's definitely different. I wasn't looking at the screen. I know. And I wonder if I enjoyed it much better screen. We'll have to figure out what it looks like. the the AI can actually make it look like we're looking at the screen. there you go. So I might have to do that.

Bright: I know. And I wonder should we be looking at the screen? We'll have to figure out what it looks like. the and the AI can actually make it look like we're looking at the screen. Might have to do that.

Duds: Can it build a studio around us too? Technically. Yeah.

Bright: Technically.

Duds: Yeah, we could we could turn that on right now. This this works for we're at the bar, drinking beer. Next week are we doing your house? No, I don't think so. No? You wanna come over here? I I don't mind it. You don't mind it? That's fifteen minutes. I mean Yeah, it's not bad. I just feel bad. Like I you don't have to come here. No, I don't mind

Bright: Yeah, we could we could turn that on right now. But this this works for we're at the bar, drinking beer. Next week are we doing your house? No. No? You wanna come over here? I don't mind. You don't mind it? I mean Yeah, it's not bad. I just feel bad. Like I you don't have to come here every time.

Duds: it because well, to be honest, like we only have the ranch, so kids are like right above us. Well I figured head up in the basement, you're worried that would let they'd hear us. Well j yeah, just waking up and yeah, you know, interference.

Bright: Well I figured it'd just end up in the basement. You're worried that w what they'd hear us? Well j wake them up. Yeah. Interference. All right. Well I told Nilla, I said we'll go over to his house. I'm fine with whatever. Yeah. So we'll see.

Duds: But well, I told Bill, I said, we'll go over to his house. I'm fine with whatever. Yeah. You know, by the time like to get here from my house, it's like the same as going down to the basement, getting all set up, so it doesn't really yeah, make a big difference to me. Well, a good deal. And I do like it

Bright: Right. Right. Yeah. All right. Well good deal. And

Duds: in person. I think it's more personable. It is for sure. And we're not like talking over each other as much. Probably Yeah, you're having like an actual conversation. I've always ever since

Bright: It is for sure. And we're not talking over each other as much. It's probably having actual conversation. Yes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So I've always ever since

Duds: the whole advent of going back to like the internet and all that. I remember working in my first career, they had WebExes when they first came out

Bright: Yeah, sure.

Duds: and I hated them. Cause you'd be giving presentations and you'd

Bright: Yeah.

Duds: be talking and talking and as you're talking, I would be like, Are is everybody still there? did that get disconnected? Yeah. And you can't really just like, Okay, everybody's still there because you're giving a presentation. You just keep talking. It's like Am

Bright: Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Duds: I just what if I've been talking for ten minutes and nobody's even on here listening anymore? Sure. And then you feel like an idiot, right?

Bright: It it's happened to me.

Duds: But I've always hated the the whole computer Yeah. I Zoom call stuff,

Bright: Yeah. I I do it a lot.

Duds: I like when all that came out during COVID, I I was like, I d despise this stuff. I I'd always done it a lot with my job. 'cause we have clients all over the country. It's just really the only way. And it's not that we don't do stuff in person, but you have to supplement that with internet training. I mean it makes sense. I get it. I did one today with a client and they used their own

Bright: I had always done it a lot with my job, because we have clients all over the country. It's just really the only way. And it's not that we don't do stuff in person, but you have to supplement that with internet trainings and and the like. I did one today with a client and they used their own platform, which is fine. We're we're used to that. But most of the time now it's Zoom or Teams. This was one I've never heard of and it was not great.

Duds: platform, which is fine. We're we're used to that. But most of the time now it's Zoom or Teams. This was one I've never heard of and it was not great. What was it? Webinar Jam. Webinar Jam. Webinar Jam. I've heard webinars. So well webinars is what we call more or less a lot of our just educational training. We just call it a webinar. Yeah, it's like a generic generic. Whether you're using Zoom or Teams or Google or whatever. Webex was the first one I ever remember hearing. Yeah. And then we I'm trying to remember what we use

Bright: Webinar jam. Webinar jam. So well webinars is what we call more or less a lot of our just educational trainings. We just call it a webinar. Like, hey, join our webinar. Yeah, generic. Whether you're using Zoom or Teams or Google or whatever. Yeah. And then we u I'm trying to remember what we used before COVID.

Duds: Four COVID.

Bright: it was basically WebEx and it was all right. It had some good features. But then Zoom came out and it was way better. and then

Duds: It was basically WebEx and it was all right. It had some good features. But then Zoom came out. Zoom came out during COVID. Yeah. I know I don't think I've ever even used Zoom. Teams now essentially does the same thing. It was included with Microsoft and it's pretty easy. So this company used Webinar Jam. And I wasn't the one giving the presentation. It was my my coworker. I was just there for moral support to say hi. But I was like, What? Like, why?

Bright: Yeah, and then Teams now essentially does the same thing and it's included with Microsoft and everybody has Microsoft, so we pretty much use Teams. So this company used Webinar Jam and I wasn't the one giving the presentation. It was my my coworker. I was just there for moral support to say hi. But I was like, What? Like, why? What kind of deal did you get? Why did your company decide to do this? Like it was not great. So sorry, Webinar Jam, this is not an endorsement.

Duds: What kind of deal did you get? Why did your company decide to do this? it was not great. So sorry, Webinar Jam, this is not an endorsement. You will not be giving us any money. No, no, no. Oops. Call us Webinar Jam. We'll fix that. We'll fix that. And post. We can be bought. That's right. Probably can be bought. 100%. All right. Well, let's sign off. Later. Good episode.

Bright: No, no, no. Oops. Did I just kill a sponsor or potential sponsor? Call us webinar jam. We'll fix that. We'll fix that. In post. We could be bought. That's right. 100% we could be bought. 100%. All right. Well, let's sign off. Later. Good episode.